Re: change your password day
Roedy Green wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:40:32 -0400, Arne Vajh?j <arne@vajhoej.dk>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
And this is relevant for Java because ??
If you interpreted the topic guidelines rigidly, you could only
discuss the Java language and the standard class libraries. 3rd party
libraries, optional libraries, algorithms, JSP... would all be off
topic. This would be pretty dull and repetitive.
Someone could not ask about *.tld files for tags for example because
they are XML, not Java.
This is comp.lang.java.programmer not comp.lang.c - if the question
is about Java programming it is considered on topic - if it involves
Java programming, then most likely none will complain.
But password policies are way off topic.
In my view, newsgroups represent a community that have a common pool
of knowledge. It makes sense to ask questions from that common pool.
That view admits a broader permissible range of topics.
According to your logic then we should only have one big group
for all usenet.
We do not. For good reasons. People follow groups because they
are interested in a specific topic.
People read cljp because they are interested in Java programming.
If they were interested in server administration, then they would
read another group.
To avoid wasting others's time, I think it important to reveal the
topic clearly in the title line. Then people can easily avoid the
topic if it is not of interest.
Topics should be descriptive.
But that does not make off topics OK.
I get more steamed than most by ads for completely unrelated good
posted. Some people seem even more annoyed by mildly off topic posts
than by these pests.
There is no point in replying to regular spam, because the posters
does not read it.
You obviously read replies.
There have been days go by without a new topic introduced. Under these
low traffic conditions, I don't think it necessary to be rigid.
The traffic in cljp is relative high - around 2000-4000 posts
per months.
But even if it had been 2-4 posts per months, then server admin
posts would still be off topic and should not be posted here.
I also think that people who post a lot should be given more latitude.
You could just as well argue that people that post a lot should
know what is on and off topic a lot better.
:-)
Anyway I strongly disagree with the elitarian view that there
are A and B users and that the rules only applies to B users.
It would not make sense to join some other newsgroup where they are
unknown and ignorable just to ask one question, when they strongly
suspect someone in their home territory knows the answer.
Given the years of experience several people in cljp has, then
it is most likely that someone will know the answer to most
IT questions.
But it is highly disrespectful to post the questions here anyway.
They read here to read about Java. If they were interested in
in seeing questions about server admin, then they would also
be capable of reading a relevant group.
If they
have never posted before, and they ask an off-topic question, best to
send them to a different group where they can become established and
ask similar questions.
Same for those that have made 10000 posts.
Arne