Re: Distinct ID Number Per Object?

From:
Lew <lew@lewscanon.nospam>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:03:04 -0400
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Twisted wrote:

On Jun 17, 3:56 am, Mark Thornton <mark.p.thorn...@ntl-spam-world.com>
wrote:

Twisted wrote:

Regarding identityHashCode() -- I have it on good authority than the
Sun JVM implementation, and the typical implementation, uses the RAM
address of the object's handle (which isn't moved by compacting gc).

I don't think the Sun JVM's have used object handles for many years. The
early garbage collectors did work that way.


JVMs tend to either use handles, or they directly rewrite referring
objects' reference pointers. In the latter case, the object's own RAM
address is likely to be used to set its hash code when it's created,
but then the object may get moved and the hash code stay the same.


Proving further that the hash code is not the same as the "address". The
"address" is permitted to change, but the hashCode() result is not. This was
part of my evidence when I pointed out

Nor is the "address" required to remain "constant" during the lifetime of the object, unlike the return value of hashCode().


Different things, different semantic spaces.

--
Lew

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