Re: Do you use a garbage collector (java vs c++ difference in "new")

From:
Lew <lew@lewscanon.com>
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Date:
Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:36:20 -0400
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Chris Thomasson wrote:

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"Lew" <lew@lewscanon.com> wrote in message
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Chris Thomasson wrote:

AFAICT, in a sense, you don't what your talking about. Explain how
you synchronize with this counter? Are you going to stripe it? If
so, at what level of granularity? Java can use advanced memory
allocation techniques.

How many memory allocators have you written?


These questions are meaningless and irrelevant.

No one has to synchronize with the memory "counter" (I would use the
term "pointer" myself) in Java. That is handled by the JVM.


Perhaps I a misunderstanding what Reedy meant by counter.


Roedy! Not Reedy... CRAP!

See, I thought that he meant count from a single base of memory. In


At any given moment, that is how the JVM allocates memory.

other words, increment a pointer. This can be analogous to a counter.
Think in terms of using FAA to increment a pointer location off of
common base memory. This can definitely be used for an allocator that
does not really like to free anything... How would you do it? I bet
you would not use this method.


I let the JVM do it, since it takes only about 10 machine instructions to
allocate an object, and guarantees the result to be thread safe.

--
Lew

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