Re: compilation of java for 64 bit

From:
Owen Jacobson <angrybaldguy@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:38:32 -0500
Message-ID:
<2009122719383275249-angrybaldguy@gmailcom>
On 2009-12-27 17:50:38 -0500, zigzagdna <zigzagdna@yahoo.com> said:

On Dec 27, 4:54?pm, Owen Jacobson <angrybald...@gmail.com> wrote:

More practically, the limiting factor for the Windows 32-bit VM is not
the available address space, but the available *continuous* address
space. For implementation reasons, the Hotspot VM's heap must be
continuous in the process's address space. 32-bit Windows processes
(whether or not /3GB is in effect, and whether or not they are
/LARGEADDRESSAWARE) have a small gap in the usable address space right
above the 2GB mark, which prevents the VM from creating a continuous
region larger than 2GB.


Thanks. I had seen the links in your mail before starting this thread.
I know Sun's java needs contigous space; while it is not avaiable in
32bit OS, it should be avaiable when running 32bit JVM on 64 bit OS.


Sadly not. 64-bit Windows runs 32-bit processes as much like 32-bit
Windows does as possible, which includes keeping that hole in the
process address space. A /LARGEADDRESSAWARE 32-bit program running on
64-bit Windows has an address space laid out exactly as it would on
32-bit Windows.

I did a little digging to substantiate my claim about a gap at the 2GB
line. While I was wrong in that the gap is owned by the *process* and
not by the *OS* as I originally claimed, the gap is still present.
Libraries are loaded into 32-bit Windows processes near and below the
address 0x7FFFFFFF, which is at the top of a non-/LARGEADDRESSAWARE's
usable address space... but smack in the middle of a
/LARGEADDRESSAWARE's usable address space. Various low-level Windows
DLLs are loaded at fixed addresses and *cannot* be relocated by the
loader to somewhere more convenient to the JVM's address space
constraints.

Keep in mind that this is about address space, *not* memory.

-o

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