Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing)

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Date:
Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:46:12 -0500
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On 1/2/2013 9:27 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:26:03 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 1/2/2013 9:22 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

an other requirement not satisfied by any IDE we have found is
the
ability to lay the source tree out in such a way that it can be
compiled without the IDE (a requirement for almost all our
projects
because none of our clients have IDE's and in almost all cases
there
are minor changes needed to make the code happy on their site
that

make testing impossible on the development machine)


The Java IDE's I know put code in a structure that fits

java tools, ant and maven.


And in almost any non-trivial case this is completely incorrect...


Given that a big part (my estimate: 80-90%!) of all Java applications
are build:
- developer use IDE and checkin to VCS
- build process checkout from VCS and use ant/maven to build
then it has to be correct.

even though I love Java as a lang I have a serious issue with some of
the attitudes/assumptions made by tools... namely the universe does
not revolve around the JVM


I find it natural that tools developed for Java development are the
best for Java development and tools developed for C development are
the best for C development and ... PHP ... Python ... etc..

Arne

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