Re: What's the best non-JVM native language to look at?

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:49:31 -0500
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On 1/16/2014 7:35 AM, Saxo wrote:

I have only been worked with vm based languages (first Smalltalk,
then Java). Now I would like to have a look at a language that is
natively compiled. I know this forum is not really the place for
native PLs. But it is the place where people best understand my
background.

I will probably make my living with Java or maybe some other JVM
language for a long time to come. It's only about looking into some
native compiled language as a complement and to look at new things.
So I have been looking into Go, D, Rust, C, C++. Problem is that
after many iterations I have somewhat ended up in disorientation. So
I would like to check out what other people think to get some quality
check.

I think I will only have a chance to do a bit C at work one time (or
C with using a C++ compiler as a better C compiler. C++ takes years
to learn on full-time assignment and I don't think I will have a
chance to pick it up well enough, because there are simply too many
aspects of the language.

Go is ideal for someone with my background, easy to pick up, no
manual memory management, good networking, good concurrency (based on
CSP by Hoare as Rust and Occam). But the language itself is really
simplistic.

Then there is D which I like quite much as it is really high-level,
but also allows for system programming and low-level stuff. But I
don't think you will ever get work for it. For sure not in my
country.

So what I end up is looking into C using a C++ compiler or looking
into Go (to get better understanding of concurrency using channels as
different approach). D would be really nice, but I fear it would also
be quite effortful to pick it up nice.

From what I've written so far you might be able to see where the
disorientation / confusion originates from ... My mind says I should
do some C proramming where there is the best chance to do some work
with it at some company one day. But my heard tells me to do some
more fancy stuff like Go or D.


I think (an many of the previous posts) that you should go with C.

You already know a high level platform independent language in
Java.

If you look for a language that can be used for what Java is
not suited for like low level high platform dependent code, then
C is perfect.

So I would say that C supplement Java nicely.

The other alternative I can think of is C# with the intention
to do Windows desktop apps.

Arne

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