Re: Java 7 vs 8 speed issues on Win7?

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Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid>

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Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:21:51 -0500

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On 11/6/2014 5:03 PM, Jan Burse wrote:

Jan Burse schrieb:

Thought experiment: If the next JVM patch improves the JIT so
sparse `switch' blocks on `char' values are compiled more efficiently,
is that a change in the "semantics" of `switch'?

Yes its a bigger potato than before. The potato
has changed. For example the compiler will accept
certain programs which he didn't accept before.
[...]

Oops, correction. I was reading "char" as string.
No compiler optimizations are usually semantics
preserving. Are not really considered as semantic
changes of a language construct.

     Thanks for the correction; you had me even more confused
than is my default state.

     However, the correction leaves me wondering just what *does*
constitute a "semantic" change, in your estimation. On the one
hand you maintain that a change in the `private' behavior of
String is a "semantic" change, although its only externally-
visible effect is on performance, not on function. On the other,
you hold that a hypothetical change to `switch' would *not* be a
"semantic" change, since it only affects performance but does not
change the outcome. I cannot see what distinguishes the two cases,
why one function-preserving-but-performance-altering change is
"semantic" and the other is not.

     Perhaps, as you suggest, it's just "potato" versus "spud."

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