Re: Developing for AWT/Swing and Android portability

From:
Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:24:29 -0700 (PDT)
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Richard Maher wrote:

Qu0ll wrote:

I just think I would be far more productive coding in Java than I ever
would be in JavaScript


But that's presumably because you've invested a lot of time and effort


Presumptuous, yes.

to develop the knowledge and techniques to make you good at it.


Not the reason he gave, but possible.

Knowledge that at least to some degree you're going to have to throw
away to make room for something more appropriate/useful/popular. Put


Why will he have to do that?

down that security blanket and stop hugging that tree it's not so bad
outside.


First of all, what is so wrong about hugging trees?

Nice rhetoric, saying nothing.

and not just because of the nature of the
languages but also because of the tools, editors, IDEs etc. that are
more advanced and work better with Java.


Not the reason you posited.

The same bleating can be heard from VisualStudio people but the Web


"bleating"?

developer support IDEs and Debuggers have really come on in recent years.

Also, the Java Platform has
such an incredible amount of additional useful, mature functionality
that I would be continually writing from scratch in a pure JavaScript
application (or C++ or just about any other language for that matter).


Unfortunately *Many* out there feel the same way and are compelled to
include hundreds of MB of JS libraries to achieve the simplest most


Evidence? Examples?

pedestrian of tasks :-( See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming


That defines an idea, but doesn't prove that applies to a criticism of Java.

And then you'll start longing for "unobtrusive Javascript" so you don't
have to spend half and hour learning about the DOM and finally search
out some abortion of a library that "Gives me my classes" by mutating
JSON :-(


WTF?

As far as the perils/drawbacks of writing something from scratch, we are
looking at sorting some Lab location on how close they are to the user
and foun this: -

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Using_geolocation

Maybe the watch event would be easier in PURE Java?


WTF?

And please,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
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don't quote sigs.

You used some rhetoric, but I don't detect a point. Is Java bad in your opinion?

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