Re: Return of the Applets?

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Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:52:16 -0400

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On 4/5/2015 5:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 5:30 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 4/5/2015 5:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 5:08 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 4/5/2015 4:54 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 4:41 PM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 4/5/2015 3:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 4/5/2015 1:31 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:

You're mixing apples and oranges. Java is NOT JavaScript - or vice
versa. They are two different languages with two different
purposes.

That must be some kind of reflex some people can't control!

But no one has claimed that Java was JavaScript. Relax.

No, but you are comparing them - which is like comparing apples and
oranges.

Yes.

They were compared as languages for running code in browser.

A perfectly valid comparison.

But Java does not "run in the browser". It runs in an extension,
loaded
by the browser.

As opposed to JavaScript - which runs natively in most browsers.

A very important distinction.

A relevant distinction in some contexts.

But not relevant in this context.

The discussion was about access to screen and the ability to support
RWS.

100% relevant in this conversation - but since it contradicts your
argument, you have to claim it's unimportant.

So how does the the fact that JavaScript comes from the browser vendor
while the Java plugin comes from Oracle impact the Stefan's conclusion
about support for RWD and what it means for Java?

I can understand that you don't want to try to explain that.

Just like comparing apples and oranges is a perfectly valid comparsion
when discussing what fruits you think taste the best.

None of which explains why you brought the Java != JavaScript
discussion
into the picture.

It does when you're comparing two entirely different languages with
different goals and different implementations.

So if someone is comparing C++ and objective-C in a specific context
then you also want to point out that it is two different languages??

I would not.

Neither for those two or for Java and JavaScript.

Yes they are.

Did you read the question?

Yes, I read the question. Did YOU? Or, more importantly - are you
capable of UNDERSTANDING the claims? It doesn't look like it.

Question: So if someone is comparing C++ and objective-C in a specific
context then you also want to point out that it is two different languages??

Answer: Yes they are.

The question was about what you would do. So an answer to the question
would either be that you would do it or that you you would not do it.
The question was not whether it was two different languages.

The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
"a"s.

But since you insist, let me give you some factual information.

- Both are trademarks of Oracle.

So?

It proves that your claim:

#The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
"a"s.

is wrong.

So I guess you're just being a pedantic troll than, Arne.

Since when has it been considered trolling to point out that
claims made are flat out wrong??

When you split hairs to contradict a bigger point. It's a mark of a
pedantic troll.

You started a completely irrelevant sub-thread. And it is splitting
hairs to point out that besides irrelevant then it was also wrong.

:-)

Nope, it was completely relevant to the subject at hand. But you don't
understand that.

But then another indicator of a pedantic troll is selectively snipping
information which contradicts what her has to say. Like you did (again)
here.

I believe I only snipped signature and your remarks about another group
which I don't think provide any substance in this discussion.

Arne