Re: infinite loop with http requests

From:
"Daniel Pitts" <googlegroupie@coloraura.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
20 Nov 2006 12:29:29 -0800
Message-ID:
<1164054569.483997.189180@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Chris Uppal wrote:

Daniel Pitts wrote:

Oliver Wong wrote:

    I recommend against using google as your test server. Google does
some funky stuff when it detects that Java is connecting to it, which
may give you unexpected results.

[...]

Good suggestion except for two things, He isn't using Java's URL API,
which is what's responsible for setting the User-Agent string. Second,
you can override the User-Agent string, and google couldn't possible
know the difference.


I agree with Oliver's advice. Google is perfectly at liberty to treat requests
differently depending on how they /appear/ to have been submitted.

If I were them I would group requests into at least three categories: ones that
appear to be legit (as far as we can tell from the various meta-info in a
request); those that appear to come from frequently abused clients (such as the
Java stuff); and those where we can't tell much. I would be less aggressive
about -- say -- shutting off an over-eager client IP address if the requests
appeared to be from a normal browser than if they appeared to come from
uncontrolled code. And I'd put the "can't tell" ones somewhere in the middle.

But the bottom line is not that Google /can/ treat requests differently
depending on apparently immaterial meta stuff, but that it /does/ do so --
which makes it a very poor example domain for a beginner (to HTTP) to test
against.

    -- chris


Okay, while my point was that you can "trick" google into thinking that
it is probably a legit client, your point is well taken.

I suppose a good way to learn HTTP is to set up a webserver in your own
development environment (such as apache, resin, etc...), and use it
instead of a third party website. That way you also have control over
the content being produced.

- Daniel.

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