Re: rm app.log? No problem

From:
Lew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:23:55 -0500
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dmcreyno wrote:

Being a J2EE web developer for the bulk of my career, I've not been
called upon too often to do basic Java file IO. Here's what I am doing.

1. Open a file writer.
2. Write a few strings to the file.
3. Put the thread to sleep.
4. While the thread is asleep, use "rm" on the command line to delete
the file.
5. Thread wakes up and writes a few more strings to the deleted file.
6. Program exits cleanly despite the fact that "ls" confirms, there is
no file.

WTF?


Proof that knowledge of Java alone is insufficient to be a Java programmer -
ditto for any language.

Nigel Wade wrote:

That's the required behaviour on UNIX/Linux. Actually all 'ls' does is
confirm that there is no filesystem entry in the directory, the file and
its contents still exist.

[snip]
...It's not perfect as the creat/
open/unlink are not atomic, so there's potential for conflict and another
process could access the file during that very small window...

It also causes a common concern in sys. admin. when a disk fills up. Even
though a very large file is deleted the disk space is not recovered if
that file is still open (very often the log file from a runaway process).
It's also necessary to identify the process which has that file open and
kill it, and that task is made more difficult once the filesystem entry
has been removed.


There is a security issue as well. The output to the file will remain on the
hard drive, albeit inaccessible from a normal directory link. Sensitive data
can be recovered by a determined attacker.

--
Lew

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