Re: Post not appear on group "comp.lang.java.programmer"
Derby is free and open source.
I'd never heard of that one. But the usual pattern is that when
someone pooh-poohs a freebie and drops a well-known corporation's name
Far from "pooh-poohing" freebies, I suggested three.
(e.g. Oracle) they are pushing people at pay solutions for one reason
The danger with generalizations is that they might not apply.
There is an advantage to a comp.lang.java.programmer to be familiar with
Oracle, since it's a major source of employment, thus it serves this community
for me to mention it. Since Express Edition is free, I'm not promoting
Of course, if [Derby]'s free and open source and I've never heard of it,
it's obscure, and that makes me wonder why it's obscure whereas e.g.
MySQL is not obscure. A lot of the times, obscure means sucks,
although it can simply mean new. Of course, with software, new usually
means sucks. :)
Apache Derby is far from obscure. It's included in a number of products, such
as NetBeans, and pretty darn widespread. Check out their website, referenced
Part of why I mentioned it in the first place, along with PostgreSQL and
Oracle's free offering, was to inform folks of alternatives they might not
So if you haven't heard of it before, and now thanks to me you have, you're