Re: Developers: "Simplify Eclipse or else..."

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Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:59:45 -0400
Mark Space wrote:

Arne VajhHj wrote:

But Eclipse + available plugins has almost exploded in size. They
do have good reason to try and see if they structure things better
to make it easier to use also for those that are not full time
Java IDE users.

While I agree that refactoring is always a welcome step, on the NetBeans
side of things, I just download the "all plugins, all environments"
option and go. Hard drive space is cheap, my time isn't.

I haven't tried Eclipse so I don't know how things are for that IDE, but
an explosion in memory footprint or HD space does not alone indicate a
broken product.

Disk space and memory are not the biggest problems.

Getting all plugins for Eclipse would be horrible.

I tend to have:
- one copy for Java and Java EE
- one copy for C/C++
- one copy for the dynamic languages (PHP, Perl, Ruby, Python)
- one copy for each special purpose I am playing with for the time
   [source code analysis, C#, Fortran or whatever]

The menus has become rather big. I have a little hello world
piece of code.

If I right click in Eclipse I get 24 menu items of which 13 has

In NetBeans I get 15 menu items of which 5 has submenus.

(and I only think 1 of my menu items in Eclipse comes from a

Actually I am fine with the 24/13. But I am not sure that everyone
is. And I would not be happy if they made it 48/26 or made it 3 level
in version 4.

They can not keep adding features without some restructuring.


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