Re: macros

From:

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>

Newsgroups:

comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.java.programmer

Date:

Fri, 22 May 2009 22:18:58 -0400

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Seamus MacRae wrote:

Adlai wrote:

On May 22, 12:23 pm, Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.nospam> wrote:

Alessio Stalla wrote:

On May 20, 10:01 pm, Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.nospam> wrote:

Alessio Stalla wrote:

On May 20, 7:07 pm, Seamus MacRae <smacrae...@live.ca.nospam> wrote:

Alessio Stalla wrote:

What if the package system scoped generic "names", and those
"names"
could be used to refer to verbs, nouns, pronouns, etc. etc.?

That would be even worse: not only would methods and classes both
have
to be scoped, so thing.method() would have to have two scopes
decided
somehow (and the type of "thing" cannot be a factor in
compile-time name
resolution, since as far as the compiler is concerned it could be
anything), but method names and class names could now collide
with one
another, and possibly with other things too!

They don't

Sure they do. Either two identical names collide, or they reside in
distinct namespaces. You just insinuated that methods and classes
do not
reside in distinct namespaces (quoted material, very top of this
post).
Therefore if one of each with the same name resides in a single one,
they collide. It's elementary logic, Alessio.

Do a field named foo and a method named foo in the same class collide
in Java? No.

Because they reside in different namespaces. Java doesn't just consider
them both "symbols" and throw them together into a single namespace;
instead, it creates separate ones within the class for fields and for
methods.

By saying that, you reveal your ignorance

That's it. I've had enough of being insulted every time I open my mouth.

Fuck you!

The truly egregious thing here is that I quite clearly know a LOT more
about Java than you do, and you even attack me for my statements about
Java.

I don't think you're here to debate Lisp anymore. You're here to flame
people and be generally boorish in public. The only question is: why?

It does not matter. I deserve to be treated with a modicum of respect.

You have made a fool out of yourself. Don't blame others for that.

People will stop criticizing me and confine their discussions to the
programming languages under discussion here. The subject "Seamus MacRae"
is off-topic. Got it?

This is usenet.

You can not tell people what to do. Well you can, but it does not matter.

Arne