Re: Generics: struggling against type erasure...

From:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
6 Oct 2006 13:42:43 GMT
Message-ID:
<factory-20061006153146@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
z-man <nospam@nowhere.zz> writes:

Don't you think, anyway, that being forced by the language to
use the awkward factory pattern is much more a workaround than
an elegant solution?


  If classes were more like objects, they could double as
  factories themselves. (As Java is now, one needs to use
  reflection to do this.)

  Type parameters belong to a compile-time type system,
  so they can not be known at run-time.

  Java also has a run-time type system, insofar as every
  object knows its class, but this information is not
  available at compile-time.

  (However, one could imagine a special pre-processor
  for Java, that implements something like C++-templates.
  It should know the static type of all arguments and
  then create a special instance of a class declaration
  for each call with the type parameter values hardwired.
  In this case, an instance creation would be possible.
  Given the huge amount of such tools, there is a chance
  that such a program already exists somewhere.)

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