Re: ORMs comparisons/complaints.

Daniel Pitts <>
Thu, 02 Jan 2014 09:36:18 -0800
On 1/2/14 3:36 AM, Silvio wrote:

On 01/02/2014 04:19 AM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 12/30/2013 8:38 AM, Silvio wrote:

On 12/30/2013 05:27 AM, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

On 12/23/2013 7:25 AM, Silvio wrote:
Most places they are actually able to get ORM working.

I am not quite sure that I can follow you.

If you want OO for the code and you want the relational database,
then you must do a mapping between the two.

You can either hand write a lot of code or use an ORM.

Typical using an ORM is faster because it means less code.

You may not be able to use ORM 100%, but then use it 90% and
hand write code for the remaining 10%.

ORMs are good at what they where invented for: serializing an object and
resurrecting it at a later point in time.

Storing objects in a relational database via ORM is very different
from serialization (for non-trivial usage).

A serialization stores everything in a sequential stream of data.

Storing objects in a relational database via ORM store the stuff
not already stored in different tables.

Using a document store have some similarities with serialization.

I meant serialization in the more general sense. I am not talking about
Object(In/Out)putStream but about saving the exact state of an instance
to some addressable storage with the main purpose of restoring its state

Serialization literally means to put an object into a serial form. I
think you're trying to use it to mean something close to marshalling.

Just a thought.

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