Re: Mutex wait order

From:
"Doug Harrison [MVP]" <dsh@mvps.org>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.language
Date:
Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:26:09 -0500
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:59:46 +0200, "Arnaud Debaene"
<adebaene@club-internet.fr> wrote:

As I read it, a thread can be put outside of FIFO order only by an APC, and
therefore it knows when it does so (by calling a wait function that put it
in an alertable wait state - WaitForSinghleObjectEx for example).
Sure, a kernel mode APC could be posted to the thread anytime, but I believe
it can be done only when the thread has itself intiated an action (ie, an
I/O request) that cause a driver to post this APC. Could a kernel mode guru
confirm?


See Raymond's blog entry:

PulseEvent is fundamentally flawed
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/01/05/346888.aspx

He talks about the kernel and device drivers "borrowing" threads to process
kernel mode APCs, but he doesn't go into a lot of detail on this
"borrowing" business. This reply sheds some more light, but the list it
gives doesn't sound exhaustive:

http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/01/05/346888.aspx#347500

It does appear that other threads can cause this reordering to happen to a
waiting thread, though. Anyway, the thrust of that reply seems to be,
"Fairness, shmairness, we like scalability more," so I guess there's my
answer. :)

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