Re: Application disappears without any crash dump

From:

"Alf P. Steinbach" <alfps@start.no>

Newsgroups:

microsoft.public.vc.mfc,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32

Date:

Wed, 05 May 2010 18:46:32 +0200

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* Rahul:

We have a VC++ application (Native) developed in VSTS 2008. Sometimes
the application just vanishes without showing any crash dialog (The
default Windows Error Handler dialog) or generating any crash dump.
This happens in many systems which have identical installation,
Windows XP (SP3) with Windbg installed as the default debugger which
catches the exceptions and shows stack trace 99% of the time. But
sometimes the application just vanishes as if it had executed exit(0)
(Nothing in the TaskManager also)

Are there some exceptions which even WinDbg can not catch and hence
the program just terminates, What could be the other reasons for this.

At least with g++, which uses the old msvcrt.dll MS runtime library, a stack
overflow can generate your observed behavior.

This is typically caused by an infinite recursion.

With novice programmers (so prevalent in the industry, many of them with 5+
years experience) it can conceivably also be caused by large raw arrays as
locals, including use of Microsoft's alloca-based Unicode/char conversion.

In either case it might help to turn on stack probe checking and try to
reproduce the faults. In the very last case, stack based string conversions, a
fix might be to make the app Unicode only. I.e., simply avoiding conversions.

But it sounds like your application is prone to crashing.

This might be caused by bad use of raw pointers, which in turn is caused by
complexity, which is a euphemism for spaghetti.

If that's the case then it's much more difficult to track down, because memory,
including the stack, might be corrupted in a way "just so" to foil your
detection attempt (this is a consequence of Murphy's law).

Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

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