Re: How can this program get the text from the screen?

From:
"Tom Serface" <tserface@msn.com>
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Date:
Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:36:24 -0700
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This series of articles from MSDN might be interesting:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/02/10/CuttingEdge/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/06/04/ManagedSpy/

Tom

"Peter Olcott" <olcott@att.net> wrote in message
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Peter Olcott wrote:

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"Peter Olcott" <NoSpam@SeeScreen.com> wrote in message
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I have been researching this extensively for many years, this is

something

new and different that has not been available until recently.


Um, I believe API hooking has been around for as long as Windows
has!

Since

Windows has always been a DLL based system, Import Address Table
(IAT)
patching should have been available from the earliest days. It has

gotten

much easier with Win2K/XP supporting VirtualAlloc,
CreateRemoteThread,
ReadProcessMemory.


This is the sort of answer that I was looking for. I wanted to know

exactly what

has changed recently the effects API hooking.

Most of these earlier methods did not always work on everything, and

because of

this were not
worth the trouble if only a complete solution would do. It seems that

there is

still one case where these methods do not work, writing to an
offscreen

memory

bitmap, and then blitting this bitmap to the screen. Is this
assessment

correct?

No, these methods would work regardless of where you are writing. API
hooking allows you to hook to functions. There is no such
differentiation
that you have mentioned.


Here is the message from another dicussion on this same subject where
the author
disagrees.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win32.programmer.kernel/msg/9038346ecd47214f

Here is the whole thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win32.programmer.kernel/browse_thread/thread/222660e2231e7fcd/8957e5d102cda67f?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#8957e5d102cda67f


We talked about a API hook and *not* a window hook(as discussed in the
link provided above). A window hook is a different beast altogethery
(like SPY++). An API hook is different. Its like you are replacing a
API function call with your own method. In essence you will be
replacing a GDI call with your own method. Whether the call is made to
draw it to a screen or an off-screen memory, it makes no difference.

---
Ajay


All that I want is a way to ALWAYS get ALL the text from the screen. I
don't care what you call it, and I don't care how its done. The above
poster, and several other posters in the same thread seemed to indicate
that this is not possible.

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