Re: Inheritance and MFC

From:
"Nobody" <Nobody@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.mfc
Date:
Wed, 4 Jul 2007 06:22:38 -0700
Message-ID:
<eUDXm5jvHHA.412@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
Hi Joe,

Presumably there is not a single line of code in CGrid that uses any =

feature of MFC

whatsoever, right?

That is the plan. Who knows whether it will work or not, but just for =
arguments sake, let's just say that it does.

If this is so, then it has no display mechanism, no way to interact =

with the mouse, no way

to display anything in a window, etc. It would be what we think of as =

a "document".

Nothing wrong with that.

This is my plan.

So what you would do is create a "view" on this object. The "view" =

would provide the

display and user interaction components.

That is a big correct-a-mundo.

There would be no reason to use serialization at all; anything that =

would be in a grid

should be easily serializable using simple I/O mechanisms, to write =

integers, floats, and

strings. So CObject buys nothing.

I didn't see a need to inherit from CWnd, since all I needed was =
Serialization.
(Is there no apparent reason to ever inherit from CObject as opposed to =
CWnd? or am I completely mistaken?)
I suppose I could have used CFile or something similar, but I am just =
messing around. Familiarizing myself with the interworkings of MFC.
Like I said. It is not complete.
All I want to do is add Scrollbars to the object.
Just trying to keep it seperate.

But if you DO make it a CObject, it is STILL a "document", with no =

display, drawing, or

windowing capabilities

That is my plan.

Think of a separation of data and display, at it becomes obvious that =

your CGrid would

most likely be contained in a CDocument class in MFC, and all drawing =

and interactions

would be in a CView, or a class which is embedded in a CView.

That is what I am thinking of, but a bit differently.
There is no Document, but there are variable that are stored via =
registry or disk.

I wanted the base class to just inherit from CObject, becuase that is =
all it needed, just to store to disk
Now, I am adding Scrollbars to the object, therefore it needs more than =
just CObject.
I guess I will have to change CGrid to inherit from CWnd and add the =
CScrollbars to the base class, since I can't
inherit from CObject twice.

All in all, is there never a need to inherit from CObject as oppposed to =
CWnd?
Since, everthing in MFC will be in a View and everything in a View needs =
needs CWnd.
What is the purpose of ever inheriting from CObject?
Should I just inherit from CWnd and never inherit from CObject?
What the heck is the purpose of CObject? An unused Reference? Like PURE =
in the dialog resource?

Thanks,
"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> wrote in message =
news:6tjm83h4t0oqhkb6d0i0fcj2e5lqmrtv8a@4ax.com...

Presumably there is not a single line of code in CGrid that uses any =

feature of MFC

whatsoever, right?
 
If this is so, then it has no display mechanism, no way to interact =

with the mouse, no way

to display anything in a window, etc. It would be what we think of as =

a "document".

 
Nothing wrong with that.
 
So what you would do is create a "view" on this object. The "view" =

would provide the

display and user interaction components.
 
There would be no reason to use serialization at all; anything that =

would be in a grid

should be easily serializable using simple I/O mechanisms, to write =

integers, floats, and

strings. So CObject buys nothing.
 
Therefore, there is no need to encapsulate a grid in a CObject as =

such.

 
But if you DO make it a CObject, it is STILL a "document", with no =

display, drawing, or

windowing capabilities, so now you need to create a grid-view, and =

that would be derived

from CWnd, so it would not need to be derived from the grid; I think =

you are confusing

display and data, representation and manipulation, and the confusion =

has led you down a

design path which is apparently confusing to you, and it should be, =

because it is probably

wrong. When a design starts exhibiting these problems, you should =

reconsider the design.

 
Think of a separation of data and display, at it becomes obvious that =

your CGrid would

most likely be contained in a CDocument class in MFC, and all drawing =

and interactions

would be in a CView, or a class which is embedded in a CView.
joe
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:55:56 -0700, "Nobody" <Nobody@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Hi Joe,

Well, if you made it a CObject, it is most definitely *not* =

independent of MFC! And the

concept of including it in an MFC class seems more than a little =

strange.

 
In fact, the "using ... a few other MFC functions" means you are =

already committed to MFC.

Yes, and No.
Yes, I have committed to using MFC, because that is what I am =

developing the project with.

No, because it is able to be used independent of MFC. (At least that =

is what I was trying to do.)

Yeah, your right, I need to clean it up somewhat to conform to do what =

I want, but I was holding that off for now.

I am a bit confused about segragating the class into independent =

"Seperately indentifiable" objects. Hence the post.

CGrid - Independent
CGridMFC - MFC Dependent - Only Serialization. (Does not need CWnd.)
CGridSB - MFC Dependent plus Scrollbars.

I suppose like David said, I can't go that route and I will have to =

just inherit from CWnd in the base class or the CGridMFC class.

Thanks anyways,
"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> wrote in message =

news:dc9m83dkbfgjg9gkj8itlkcrc33mhou1q7@4ax.com...

Well, if you made it a CObject, it is most definitely *not* =

independent of MFC! And the

concept of including it in an MFC class seems more than a little =

strange.

 
In fact, the "using ... a few other MFC functions" means you are =

already committed to MFC.

joe
 
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:30:28 -0700, "Nobody" <Nobody@yahoo.com> =

wrote:

 

Hi Joe,

Why is a grid object not derived from CWnd in the first place?

I wanted to make the grid object independent of MFC.
The only reason I am using CObject is for Serialization.
I am using the registry and a few other MFC functions, OnDraw(), =

OnMouseMove(), etc.

I should actually make several layers, but it is what it is for now.

I noticed that the more I use the grid object, the more I have to =

keep adding scroll bars for pan, zoom, etc.

So, my idea was to make a CWnd GridSB Class that implements =

Scrollbars.

That class inherits from the Grid CObject class.
Then, I can leave the scroll bars inside of the CGrid Object, =

instead of Creating scroll bars each time.

This is basically what I have.

CGrid : public CObject

CGridSB: public CGrid, public CWnd
{
   CScrollbar sb;
   CreateScrollbars();
   SetScreenRect(){ Position Scrollbars(); }
}

CView::OnDraw()
{
   CGridSB sb;
   sb.SetScreenRect(Rect);
   sb.OnDraw(pDC);
}

Regards,
"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> wrote in message =

news:hndk83t2i52oo7o21fhrt0jpj8f5vn97u7@4ax.com...

Multiple inheritance is chancy in MFC. At least one rule is the =

CWnd class must be the

first class. But in this case, I don't see how a visible object =

like a grid could *not*

derive directly from CWnd, and since CWnd derives from CObject, =

there is no need for the

inheritance from CObject in the first place.
 
Why is a grid object not derived from CWnd in the first place?
joe
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 02:49:21 -0700, "Nobody" <Nobody@yahoo.com> =

wrote:

 

Hi,

I have a grid object. The Grid Object inherits from CObject.
There are no controls and I was thinking about adding some. Zoom, =

Pan, etc.

So, I have extantiated a new class that inherits from CGrid and =

CWnd.

class CGridSB : public CGrid, public CWnd

Now, I would like to add some controls to the Grid Object.
The problem is that the controls needs an m_hWnd
I am not sure what to do?

VERIFY(c_sbHZoom.Create(
     SBS_VERT | SBS_RIGHTALIGN | WS_CHILD |WS_BORDER,
  Rect,
  this,
  1234)
);

_AFXWIN_INLINE void CScrollBar::ShowScrollBar(BOOL bShow)
{ ASSERT(::IsWindow(m_hWnd)); ::ShowScrollBar(m_hWnd, SB_CTL, =

bShow); }

I understand that the CGridSB oject needs to handle the Scrollbar =

messages, so I need a message map

and perphaps a DECLARE_DYNCREATE along with an IMPLEMENT_DYNCREATE =

member.

I just need to get past the m_hWnd error.

Thanks for your help,

Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
email: newcomer@flounder.com
Web: http://www.flounder.com
MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm

Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
email: newcomer@flounder.com
Web: http://www.flounder.com
MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm

Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
email: newcomer@flounder.com
Web: http://www.flounder.com
MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm

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