Re: C++ for Embedded Systems.

From:
"kanze" <kanze@gabi-soft.fr>
Newsgroups:
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Date:
27 Sep 2006 09:23:21 -0400
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peter koch larsen wrote:

    [concerning EC++...]

I believe I would recommend regular C++ in all but the
tightest environments.


I think most people would. I think that the alterative,
however, is more often C, and not regular C++. Whatever its
flaws, I suspect that EC++ has permitted a lot of applications
to use classes, etc., which otherwise would have been written in
C.

    [...]

In fact I observed on average they did better than some of
the handcrafted implementations in our C systems.


Of course... if you only need one container you have the time
to spend more time optimising.


I think it's a question of the skill and effort involved. I've
used at least four different STL implementations. At least two
(the one with g++ and the Dimkumware version which comes with
VC++) are far better than anything I could possibly come up with
myself (and I would rate my C++ skills above average). The
authors of both are either more skilled than I am, or invested
more time than I could (or most likely both).

What I'm seeking guidance on is the usage of C++ / STL that
"optimizes for ram/rom size" rather than speed. Sort of like
-Os for STL usage guidelines.

The other common requirement in embedded systems is
determinancy. We need to know, even more than in desktop /
server apps, at design time the worst case behaviour. (Which
to me is an argument for using STL in embedded systems.)
However, a standard C++ gotcha is the time to process an
exception. A style guideline for embedded programmers should
probably highlight that in the appropriate context.

These are the sort of C++ vs Embedded gotchas and guidelines
I'm seeking.


This requires detailed study/analysis of the given compiler.


It depends on the level of detail you want. How to implement
exception handling is generally known, and it has a large cost
in code space. It's also generally accepted that raising an
exception and catching it are fairly expensive operations; if
you're writing a critical hard real-time function that has an
upper limit of 100us execution time, its something you don't
want to do.

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