Re: STL, UTF8, and CodeCvt

From:
"P.J. Plauger" <pjp@dinkumware.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date:
Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:44:14 CST
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"Philip" <Montrowe@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I am using MS VC++ 7/1 (Visual Studio 2003) and working in a fully
Unicode application targeted for Far Eastern language support.

The STL stream constructors and open functions require the filename be
provided as a narrow (char) string. Most operating systems now
support Unicode paths and filenames as UTF-8 strings, which can be
represented as char strings.

I would like to pass UTF-8 strings to the STL stream constructors and
open functions, in order to support Far Eastern language filenames.


Our upgrade library for VC++ accepts wchar_t strings as filenames,
so you can use UTF-16 names directly. UTF-8 names require a translation
step, but we also provide the translator.

The STL standard requires std::codecvt functions to support conversion
to and from Unicode UTF-16 wchar_t and MBCS char.

However, I cannot find equivalent functions for conversion from UTF-16
to UTF-8.


See:

http://www.dinkumware.com/manuals/?manual=compleat&page=wstring.html

which is also part of our upgrade library.

Are there UTF-16/UTF-8 conversions that are already part of or being
considered for inclusion in the STL standard?


The wstring header described above has been proposed for the
next version of the C++ Standard.

Is there an Intel/Windows based STL implementation which currently
provides UTF-16/UTF-8 conversion?


Just our upgrade library, AFAIK.

More generally, STL currently focuses on char/wchar_t types and refers
to them more or less consistently as narrow versus wide type (see
std::ios::widen()).

Does the STL standard currently encompass any terminology to
accommodate UTF-8 (a sort of combination of narrow and wide) or is the
standards committee considering anything along these lines?


The committee is considering several approaches, but hasn't settled
on a given one yet.

Lastly, the UTF-16/UTF-8 conversions are well-known and relatively
simple so I have considered writing my own std::codecvt
specialization.

However, there is no clearly delineated type which could stand for
UTF-8. I believe unsigned char is taken up (in Windows and VC++
anyway) for MBCS, and typedefs are not real types, only aliases and
thus do not allow a separate specialization.


You can use any of the char types for UTF-8. No need to store
UTF-8 in its own type. But see below.

Is there another technique or a language enhancement on the horizon
which would address this specialization limitation?


That too is being discussed in the C++ committee.

P.J. Plauger
Dinkumware, Ltd.
http://www.dinkumware.com

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