Re: min and max running values
Kai-Uwe Bux wrote:
Pete Becker wrote:
Clark Cox wrote:
On 2007-03-06 11:20:05 -0800, Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com>
said:
Clark Cox wrote:
On 2007-03-06 09:08:27 -0800, Pete Becker <pete@versatilecoding.com>
said:
Clark Cox wrote:
On 2007-03-05 20:08:44 -0800, Ron House <house@usq.edu.au> said:
You cannot have a well-defined max or min of zero items. So read
the first value, check that you can get that first value and
complain somehow (err message, exception, etc.)
OK, so you check for error on reading the first value; do you then
do zero error checking on the second and subsequent values? No, you
*repeat the same error checking* (or a subset thereof); leading to
redundant code, which adds unneeded complexity and increases the
maintainence burden.
Maybe. But it's also reasonable to simply say that calling a
function that returns the minimum value in a range of values with an
empty range produces undefined behavior. Implementations can check
if they want to, but aren't required to do anything sensible. After
all, asking for the minimum of no values is not a sensible request.
std::min_element seems to think that it is a perfectly sensible
request, with a well-defined return value.
Yes, because min_element takes iterators and follows the conventions
of STL algorithms. There are other ways to design functions, and in
the absence of any requirements, it's not possible to decide whether
one approach is better than another.
Indeed, so saying that "asking for the minimum of no values is not a
sensible request" isn't sensible ;)
It depends on the context, a concept that seems to be hard for most
participants in this thread to grasp.
Where is the context qualification in your statement:
After all, asking for the minimum of no values is not a sensible request.
Your statement did not read:
asking for the minimum of no values is not always a sensible request.
Sigh. The context was all of the quoted material.
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