Re: How to learn software design
In article <hgnn8l$p5h$1@news.albasani.net>, Vladimir Jovic <vladaspams@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Doubez wrote:
On 21 d?c, 11:25, Vladimir Jovic <vladasp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Doubez wrote:
On 21 d c, 09:59, Vladimir Jovic <vladasp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Andy Champ wrote:
Eric B se-Wolf wrote:
[lots of sarcasm snipped]
So it all depends on experience?
Mostly, yes. Get a job in a good software shop - not something little,
but one with big teams. 10 years down the line you'll probably have the
idea.
Bad advice. In big companies, people are on their own, and nobody to
guide them. At least that's my experience in a big company.
Well, that's true for one's whole life :) Don't wait for somebody to
feed you.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and
you feed him for a lifetime.
In the first place, why would you expect anybody to give you a fish or
to teach you how to fish ?
Because I was naive and expected too much ;)
Nope. Don't believe a SINGLE word thes kinds of people say.
Because you are ALIVE!
Because you are STILL human!
Because you STILL have a heart,
and not just a pump they think heart is.
Because YOU are the flower of the beauty
talking to beasts, not suspecting you are dealing with monsters.
Because YOU are the one that counts at the end.
Not them.
I could have said more, but is already way OT
Screw that "on topic" crap.
It is just an ugly trick of guilt manipulation.
Most of the blabber I see, being perfectly "on topic",
turns out to be some of the ugliest, totally "off topic" stuff.
Even the more optimistics know we are in a rotten world.
(The more pessimistics say there is no way out.)
Only one way out, and it awaits all of us ;)
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Ok, good enough for now.
The answer would then be: if all else fail, see how others fish and do
the same.
But big compagnies may have veterans and hire interesting people and
consultants from which you can learn. Some will teach you freely; for
others, use a peephole :)
I agree with fanix on this matter (in his other posts on this tread) :
AFAIS tanix is a troll and IMNSHO with a shallow depth of
understanding on the issue.
Not completely. Most of his posts are long and full of bitterness, but
you can find good points there.
people in big companies are generally not helpful. They will answer your
question, but will hide details.
Or they don't have the will, the formation or the time to train. IME
if you come up with questions showing that you did care and broke a
bit you teeth on the problem, you'll find someone to help you get
through. And, if you don't ... at least you have what you got by
yourself.
I guess you are right.
Anyway, to try to get back on the track: try these links:
http://pathfinderpeople.blogs.com/hslahman/class_modeling/
http://pathfinderpeople.blogs.com/hslahman/books/
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