Re: How to learn software design

From:
tanix@mongo.net (tanix)
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:00:38 GMT
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<hgrmj6$fn$2@news.eternal-september.org>
In article <491907a8-813c-4f53-a053-81f1a38b3158@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 22, 9:26 am, ta...@mongo.net (tanix) wrote:

In article <hgoo4v$lk...@news.eternal-september.org>,
ta...@mongo.net (tanix) wrote:


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Real programmers are those, who DON'T ship!!!


The actual quote is "real programmers don't eat quiche".

But of course, programmers how don't ship are quickly
unemployed.

Those, who "ship" write the crappiest code there is.


That's perfect nonsense. All professionals deliver code.


True, and that creates the whole industry to hire other
"professionals" that forever fix that stauff.
So, everybody remains gainfully employed.

And that helps. You need a few bux in your pocket once
in a while.

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Why?

Well, simply because they have no time to do it forever being
under pressure to "release" and are being forced to do a 3
month worth of work in 3 weeks.


And that's also nonsense. Release dates are only established
after discussion with the programmers, and take issues like code
quality into consideration.


I know, I know.
Heard those "discussions" before.

The way they usually go is:
"we have 3 months to release this thing"
and not a single person on the whole team does even know
what is involved and what kind of nasty details are going
to popup.

Pretty often, when they tell me their "dead" lines,
I say, oh shitski, this is going to be a trip!

Their documentation sucks. It does not tell you anything
useful.


Then the product doesn't get through review, and doesn't get
released.


Not necessarily.
You think there is some kind of "panel" from God,
omniscient that produces the objective and realistic deadlines
and specifications? Never seen anything like that.

In about 90% of all cases, just to be safe,
what I saw is either UTTER abscence of documentation
or such arrogant and such useless inline statements,
that most of it is just an insult and has no practical use.

Their code sucks.

And their sharks called VPs and CEOs are nothing more than
viciouse sharks, whose only interest is to suck as much blood
from anything that moves as they can manage.

Their customer support sucks and at the biggest and baddest
places is simply non existant.

Their "interpersonal skills" suck becaues of "fear of
survival".

They are, on the most part vicious, utterly inhuman idiots,
driven by the complex of inferiority.

Clear enough?

Or you need more?


Obviously, you've never worked at any professional companies.


Well, I gave you a list already. One more time:

Intel.
HP.
SGI.
Amdahl.
Hal Computers (Fujitsu)

and a few others, right smack in the middle of silicon valley.

You've got something MORE "professional" that that?

Who are you kidding?

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