Re: Is C++ used in life-critical systems?

From:
"Balog Pal" <pasa@lib.hu>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:06:24 +0100
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"Jorgen Grahn" <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>

To tell the truth, I am no longer in the field so I cannot say but 3
years ago IAR only supported EC++ (and arm tools also). It may have
changed.

It depends on whether customers asked for it :)


I wonder who would ask for a crippled version of C++? Surely not
someone with an existing C++ code base, and surely not someone with
an existing C code base who wants to move to C++.


Why not? Depends on what is left out. You do not need many features in the
embedded world. You do not need your codebase written for desktop/server
stuff either.

Looking at the IAR web page for their compiler
<http://www.iar.com/website1/1.0.1.0/467/1/>
I note that:

- they repeat the ancient Embedded C++ nonsense like "excluding
 namespaces makes the runtime library significantly more efficient"
 and (paraphrasing) "there's no point in implementing standard C++
 because noone else does either"


That claim sounds fishy. But in general, namespaces is on my 'not needed'
list for embedded.

I would not cry if there was no standard lib either -- if templates are
supported so I can import my own library or any stl portions I'd happen to
like.

- ... but IAR in fact implements something they call "Extended
 Embedded C++", which *does* include templates, namespaces and the
 STL ... which places the compiler in some vague area between the
 Embedded C++ and C++ languages. Weird.


Yeah, when I checked it the last time (~1.5 years ago) it looked perfectly
acceptable, except for the ridiculous price.

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