Re: What's wrong with VS.NET/2005

From:
"Tom Serface" <tom.nospam@camaswood.com>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.mfc
Date:
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:15 -0800
Message-ID:
<7CB1EAAF-92C3-48FD-BB90-0CA6E5BFC91A@microsoft.com>
Hi Ali,

I used to lament the loss of ClassWizard, but these days I don't miss it so
much. I mostly add things ClassWizard did by hand (which isn't much an
excuse I know). The thing I don't like is when I add a new Event Handler it
goes to the code rather than allowing me to add another one like ClassWizard
did. I tend to like to add all the functions and variables first then go
fill in the code. It's not such a big deal though.

I think VS2005 runs slower on Vista, but I'm not sure if it is Vista's fault
or the fault of the SP for Vista update to 2005. Lot's of things are slower
on Vista so perhaps that's an artifact of the new OS. My system has two
XEON 3GHz processors and 1GB of memory so I think it should be able to run
Vista OK, but I've been kind of disappointed in the speed. The UI is
great... oh wait, we're not talking about Vista are we <slap>

Tom

"AliR (VC++ MVP)" <AliR@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:yiZFh.5504$BE2.5252@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...

Since I won't make it to the summit I guess this is my only chance to be
heard. :)
I haven't used VS2005 that much. I am still using VS2003 at work.

But here is what I have in the little time I spent playing with it:

1. I liked the fact that at VS2003 would switch to the task list at the
end of a build. Wish VS2005 would switch to the error list automatically.
And yes by default I want to see Errors and Warnings.
2. The output window is too cluttered after a build. A little bit of white
space never hurt anyone.
3. One word (maybe two depending on how you look at it) ClassWizard!!!
(And Orcas didn't not make things any better in this department). I loved
the one stop shop of attaching variables to controls and handling messages
in VS6.
4. With the current way of going through the Property Window to override
methods, and catch messages, I hate the fact that I have to put the mouse
in specific location in the class implementation (like the Message map) to
be able to access that functionality. At least in 2003 you could do it
from anywhere within that class.
5. VS6.0 had hot key for iterating through the find in file results. The
same way F8 iterates the error list.

You know what I just realized after rereading what I wrote. These are
only complaints that a VC++ developer would have. Lets face it why would a
C# guy need a classwizard. How many C# guys do you know that would
complain about the fact that they have to put the cursor in the class
definition to get the Events, Messages and Overrides to show up.

You guys have heard about Cingular charging TDMA customers an extra
$5/month in order to force them to go in and change their phones to the
new GSM phones, just because they didn't want to keep up with two
different networks. I think Microsoft is doing that to us. They are going
to make VC++ development so tedious and difficult that we would have to
abandon it sooner or later and switch to C#. :)

AliR.

"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer@flounder.com> wrote in message
news:a8igu2ll0oca23bfdlvtpj5ar91nbj0agi@4ax.com...

At the upcoming MVP Summit, we get a chance to give feedback directly to
Microsoft about
VS. I have my own list of all the problems of VS.NET/2005, but if you
have your own
favorite issues (bugs, poor interfaces, etc.) post your comments in this
thread, and I'll
do my best to see that the comments are presented. I will probably
summarize them but I
will also collect the original postings and present those as well. So
here's a chance to
be heard! I'll do what I can to convey all your concerns.
joe
Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
email: newcomer@flounder.com
Web: http://www.flounder.com
MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm

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