Re: OT: regarding George

From:
David Wilkinson <no-reply@effisols.com>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.language
Date:
Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:58:35 -0500
Message-ID:
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Alf P. Steinbach wrote:

Well, it's not exactly correct to call either of the two programs
mentioned, Outlook Express and Thunderbird, a "proper newsreader".

MS Outlook Express is an abomination, screwing up the text you post (in
particular with a tendency to "helpfully" insert the string "file:" and
bungling your signature delimiter), unable to present digitally signed
articles -- the content is treated as an attachment!, and providing a
host of vectors for malware infection.

The least measure when using MS Outlook Express a.k.a Windows Mail, in
order to not antagonize other people, is to install OE QuoteFix.

Thunderbird has very frustrating defaults and does not support e.g.
marking cross-posted articles as read (of course that's functionality
that's not even thinkable for Outlook Express). Thunderbird also has a
tendency to screw up article numbering, a bug. But I'm using it, and
some of the problems with the defaults can be overcome by installing the
Newsworthy extension, which I'm sorry to say I haven't updated for
Thunderbird 2.0, but all that's required seems to be to change the
version number in its manifest file -- at least according to comments.


Yes, I agree that Outlook Express and Thunderbird are not ideal, but they
provide a much better experience than the web browser one.

I use SeaMonkey, whose newsreader is doubtless very similar to Thunderbird, and
this feature of not marking cross-posted threads as read in other groups is
extremely annoying. This used to work in Netscape 4, but for some reason this
ability has been lost.

I do think about moving to Forte Agent, but I just like having everything
(mail/browser/newsreader) in the same application.

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP

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