Re: Garbage Collection - The Trash Begins To Pile Up

From:
"James Kanze" <james.kanze@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
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Date:
4 Jan 2007 16:32:57 -0500
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Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

Zeljko Vrba wrote:

"Le Chaud Lapin" <jaibuduvin@gmail.com> writes:

Someone mentioned recently that system-wide named objects have
relatively recently found their way into Linux. This, IMO, is a great
example where someone, somewhere, thought long and hard and realized
that you probably need that.


I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic here because system-wide named
objects have existed for a long time on SYSV-derived unixes: shared memory,
semaphores and message queues. (Are you talking about other kinds of
objects?) The only thing is that the "name" is a number, not a path name.
Message queues being both communication _and_ synchronization mechanism.


No not being sarcastic. I write entirely in Windows today, so I am not
up to date on what Unix has.


No need to be up to date. They've been present at least since
the 1980's (when I first learned them).

They're relatively little used today (except for named pipes),
because you also need a means of sharing the data they protect;
it's much simpler to put both the data and the Posix structures
(pthread_mutex_t or whatever) in a (named) file, and mmap it.

In fact, most of Windows functionality has been copied from
older Unices (including some of the bad parts); for better or
for worse, there is more or less a consensus as to what is
needed. (Better, from the point of view of standardization,
since standardization requires a consensus; worse, perhaps from
a technical point of view, although globally, it does work for
certain categories of applications.)

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