Re: Integer division specification

From:
"=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel_Kr=FCgler?=" <daniel.kruegler@googlemail.com>
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Date:
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:05:32 CST
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On 17 Feb., 20:37, Gennaro Prota <gennaro.pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:25:30 CST, Gennaro Prota wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if, as part of the synchronization with C99, the C++
standard is going to require truncation towards zero for integer
division or continue to allow the same choice as C90.


Well, let me please do another attempt at getting a reply. I have a
defect report concerning the specification of operator / and the
proposed resolution would depend on whether truncation "towards -inf"
is allowed or not.

It would help everyone, not least the committee which would have to
examine the DR, to know the answer to this (if it is already known
:-)).


I'm sorry, that I can be only of limited help here, but even some
little help is better than nothing, I guess ;-)

I just read the current wording of C99 and the most recent draft for
C++. From what I read, I would deduce the following:

1) C99 (More exactly: I have studied 9899:1999 (E) for this), says
in 6.5.5/6:

"When integers are divided, the result of the / operator is the
algebraic
quotient with any fractional part discarded.87)"

with footnote 87:

"This is often called ''truncation toward zero''."

so indeed C99 demands truncation toward zero.

2) Opposed to this, N2134 says in 5.6/4:

"If both operands are nonnegative then the remainder is nonnegative;
if not, the sign of the remainder is implementation-defined78)"

with footnote 78:

"According to work underway toward the revision of ISO C, the
preferred
algorithm for integer division follows the rules defined in the ISO
Fortran
standard, ISO/IEC 1539:1991, in which the quotient is always rounded
toward zero."

So viewing from the Status Quo I interpret that our C++ Standard does
currently would allow any rounding strategy (including truncation
"towards -inf") if one of the operands is negative.

I cannot say, whether the current state of affairs are by design or
not,
but the synchronization seems to be useful for most programmers.

Greetings from Bremen,

Daniel

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