Re: Thread safety in set

From:
Ulrich Eckhardt <eckhardt@satorlaser.com>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.stl
Date:
Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:44:24 +0100
Message-ID:
<84ko65-v5m.ln1@satorlaser.homedns.org>
Norbert Unterberg wrote:

Ulrich Eckhardt schrieb:

Further, and that is an
issue often ignored by programmers, thread safety is not only about
atomicity but also about visibility, in particular in systems with
multiple CPU(-core)s.


I do not quite understand, what do you mean by visibility in this context?
Cache issues?


Yes, multiple caches influence this. Further, write reordering (which is
done by CPUs or compilers) also influences it.

This seems contradicting to another referece "Thread Safety in the
Standard C++ Library" in MSDN Library:

"The container classes are vector, deque, list, queue, stack ,
priority_queue, valarray, map, multimap, set, multiset, basic_string,
bitset. For reads to the same object, the object is thread safe for
reading in the following scenarios:
From one thread at a time when no writers on other threads.
From many threads at a time when no writers on other threads.
For writes to the same object, the object is thread safe for writing
from one thread when no readers on other threads"


This is not contradicting the above. The above has nothing to do with
multithreading, it only documents required iterator invalidation rules
from the C++ standard.


Not true. This has to do everything with multithreading. It explains it
all. The relevant section for threads writing to the set is:

 >> For writes to the same object, the object is thread safe for writing
 >> from one thread when no readers on other threads"


I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear. When I said "the above", I actually
meant the first piece of text that the OP quoted and which only illustrated
the iterator invalidation rules, which are not about threads. Bad wording
on my side, sorry.

Uli

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