Re: What's the connection between objects and threads?
On 21 mai, 19:52, c...@mailvault.com wrote:
On May 21, 6:32 am, Pete Becker <p...@versatilecoding.com> wrote:
On 2008-05-21 05:18:56 -0400, James Kanze <james.ka...@gmail.com> said:
That's not really the point (although it certainly would be in
some applications). The point is that this idea was put forward
many, many years ago; it works well when you're dealing with
simple objects, like int's, but it doesn't work when you start
dealing with sets of objects grouped into transactions.
Ensuring transactional integrity in a multi-threaded
environment, without deadlocks, still requires manually managing
locking and unlocking---even scoped locking doesn't really work
here. (You can implement transactions with scoped locking, but
only if you only handle one transaction at a time. In which
case, there's really no point in being multithreaded.)
To put it a little more abstractly: ensuring data integrity in a
multi-threaded application requires an application-level solution. A
library or language can provide tools to make this easier, but they
cannot solve the problem.
I agree with the gist of that, but think Kanze put it well enough.
Maybe, but Pete said it a lot clearer, in a lot fewer words.
It's an application level problem, in the end, and all the
library, the language (or the OS, or anything else) can provide
are tools.
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