Re: How to make this program more efficient?
On Sep 20, 1:37 pm, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
James Kanze wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:44 am, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
James Kanze wrote:
On Sep 13, 12:28 pm, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
James Kanze wrote:
If there's any thread modifying the object, then all
accesses must be synchronized. Period.
That is incorrect.
Not according to Posix.
Or the Bible, which is also irrelevant.
And not on some of the more recent architectures.
Any major ones?
DEC Alpha, Sun Sparc, and Intel 64 bits, that I know of.
Probably most others as well.
In this context (aligned pointers) that is incorrect.
Not according to the processors specifications. I've seen
actual errors due to it as well.
Caches are an obvious counter example where the writer
can write a single word (a pointer to the updated
immutable cache) atomically and readers can read the
word atomically safely without any locking at all.
First, there's formally no guarantee about writing even a
single word.
That is incorrect. There are, of course, already guarantees
such as the one given by .NET as I have already said.
Ensuring that guararantee is going to make programs run almost
an order of magnitude slower.
Note that .NET already runs on x64 and is not an "order of
magnitude slower" precisely because your assertions are
incorrect.
Note that you've almost certainly misunderstood the
specifications of .NET. I'd be very surprised if they were
significantly different than those of Java.
But that's not the issue; the issue is one of ordering. And
the upcoming C++ standard will be clear here: if more than
one thread accesses the container, and any thread modifies
it, then all accesses must be synchronized.
That is just another serious limitation of the new C++.
That's because it's a limitation of real hardware.
Another misconception.
So you know more about the Sparc architecture than the people
who actually designed it.
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