Re: product system requirements

From:
"Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <bvoigt@newsgroup.nospam>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.language
Date:
Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:07:06 -0500
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"Starglider 4" <x@pln.nl> wrote in message
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I'm convinced, that the simplest and best (and most direct) way to solve
the problem, is to include oalinst.exe (msdn-online) into my
setup project. i already have vc-runtime in it, and it autom.
checkes for the version installed. oalinst installs everything you
need for a perfect Oal performance.


So long as the user doesn't look in Add/Remove programs, go "WTH is
oalinst?" and uninstall it. A check for OpenAL presence in your startup
code would not be amiss.

Plus, delay-loading everything but kernel32, user32, gdi32 (which are always
in memory anyway) lets you get up a loading screen fast while the OS loads
your other assets (whether code in DLLs, graphics textures, etc).

//M

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"Starglider 4" <x@pln.nl> wrote in message
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Yes, that's the right way to do it. Could you tell me some things
about implementing this into my setup project? I use the
std. v-studio 2k5 setup project, but I'm not yet entirely sure about
including executables into it.


Well, I was actually suggesting doing the check from the main launcher
for your game, not the setup program. If you have a separate launcher
process (e.g. for updates that replace the main executable) it will be
easy. If you have a single executable you'll probably want to look into
delay loading so that you can continue calling functions normally without
a ton of GetProcAddress and function pointers, but explicitly force
loading the DLL during startup and handle failure by taking the user to
the download page.

//M

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"Nathan Mates" <nathan@visi.com> wrote in message
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In article <4ac929c6$0$1654$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl>,
Starglider 4 <x@pln.nl> wrote:

The real issue is: OpenAL. Can you tell me more about OpenAL
support? I have already limited the systems to XP/Vista, so that
would cut out a lot of potential problems. (I haven't yet included
wrap_oal.dll. I suppose this could present problems with some users'
systems?)


  Better include an installer for it in your game's installer.


Actually, to save on the size of your download, and to handle users who
actually use Add/Remove Programs (and might have removed this OpenAL
thing they never run), I'd put a check for it in your startup sequence
and offer a download link if it's missing.

Nathan Mates
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