Re: Overloaded vendor library routine: is this C++? Or very clever C?

From:
Tom Widmer <tom_usenet@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Date:
Mon, 15 May 2006 17:46:39 +0100
Message-ID:
<e4ab58$vrb$1@emma.aioe.org>
Jack Daly wrote:

On Sun, 14 May 2006 18:36:35 GMT, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
wrote:

Jack Daly <jd1033@yahoo.com> writes:

  wibble = (long)bar(); // shouldn't be possible, but...
  printf("wibble is %d\n", wibble); // works!!
}

Is this possible in C? Or does the vendor library have to be C++? If
it is C++, how does this work? I'm compiling with gcc and I can't see
how this module could interface with a C++ class with overloaded
access routines.


You're assuming that the code might be C++ because you think it's
doing "overloading". You've misunderstood the meaning of the term.


Ok, to be more specific: I'm postulating that the vendor has supplied
a C++ library which has (at least) two copy assignment operators:

long operator=(const bar& rhs) {...}
bar* operator=(const bar& rhs) {...}


That isn't possible in C++ - you can't overload assignment for built in
types. Nor can you overload the type conversion operator for pointers.

Somehow, this C code has linked with the C++ library and the
assignment 'wibble = (long)bar()' is using the first operator.


I'm afraid this isn't possible - C++ doesn't do what you are talking
about anyway, and in any case it would require the compiler, not linker.

The code you posted is simply converting an expression of one type
(dummy, a pointer type) to another type (long). This is perfectly
legal in C (and in C++), but the result won't necessarily be
meaningful.


But it *is* meaningful... that's the whole problem. The interesting
thing is - *why* is it meaningful?


Could the number returned not be an index or key into a table? This is
how, for example, Microsoft's opaque HANDLE pointers work.

The function bar() returns a pointer. Possibly the pointer it returns
is obtained by converting an integer value to the pointer type. The
caller then converts from a pointer type back to an integer type.
This is a dangerously non-portable thing to do -- but sometimes
dangerously non-portable code is what's needed to do the job.


See my reply to Howard - I don't think this is possible. The value
returned by the vendor's 'bar' is, in normal circumstances, meant to
be a real object pointer describing a complex signal - you can pass it
back to the vendor's library, and do complicated things with it.


It need not be a valid pointer for that. What happens if you print out
the pointer value, e.g.
printf("wibble is %p\n", (void*)wibble);

No, it's getting a real and valid result - see my two previous
replies. There's no chance that the pointer could display as the
expected current value of the signal (the 4 values it's displaying are
2, 18, 0, and 0, which are exactly correct).


What do those values represent?

Tom

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