Re: maps to hold ultra large data sets using customer allocators to allocate disk space rather than main memory

From:
James Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
16 May 2007 00:51:15 -0700
Message-ID:
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On May 15, 9:04 am, CMOS <manu...@millenniumit.com> wrote:

a generic DB's performance will not be enough and i do not need it to
support any data modifications, transactions, etc which will slow down
operation.
the only requrement is to Insert data and query and delete records
using keys. no need of SQL interface either.


Using std::map with allocators for data on disk will *not*
result in better performance than a commercial data base.
Commercial data bases have invested hundreds of man years in
optimizing their accesses. At least one commercial vendor,
SyBase, has a variant of their data base optimized for exactly
this sort of application: updates only in batch, no
transactions, but very fast read access for very, very large
data sets. And all commercial data bases know how to maintain
indexes for multiple fields, in a fashion optimized for disk (B+
trees or hash tables, rather than the classical binary tree
typically used by std::map.) It may be possible to do better
than the commercial data bases for a specialized application,
but to do so will require very special custom code (and not just
std::map with a special allocator), and probably something up of
ten man years development time.

In answer to your question, however, I have my doubts as to
whether it is even possible. The accessors to std::map return
references, and these are required by the standard to be real
references. Which means that user code will have references
into your in memory data which you cannot track, which in turn
means that you cannot know when you can release the in memory
data---any data, once accessed, must be maintained in memory for
all time.

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