Re: Future of C++

From:

"Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk>

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comp.lang.c++.moderated

Date:

Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:21:06 CST

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Andre Kaufmann wrote:

Eugene Gershnik wrote:

On Aug 11, 3:27 pm, Andre Kaufmann <akfmn...@t-online.de> wrote:

[...]

This is getting rather platform specific but I hope moderators will
let this through since at least some of it applies to standard C++.

I think it gets too proprietary too - so I try to be more C++
specific.

1. Both these attributes do *not* say that the class they apply to
is a COM interface. The first one is a nice optimization for any
abstract [...]

No, but would it make sense for a C++ compiler to make a destructor
automatically virtual if a class has the novtable attribute ?

No, how could it?

By the way, C++ already does make functions automatically virtual,
if a hidden function in the base class is changed to a virtual
function.

That's part of the current language, not a change for existing code.

I repeat: there is NO way for the compiler to detect that a
certain C++ class is used as a COM interface

If the C++ compiler can't detect it, how is the binary
compatibility of the COM - ABI with the other languages and other
C++ compilers ensured ? Or are you just assuming that the VTABLE of
a C++ compiler matches with the proprietary COM specifications ?

Yes, if the compiler documentation says that it is COM compliant, I
would assume that it is. :-)

We are talking about language changes that would make existing code
non-compliant.

[...]

Interface = Pure abstract means only abstract functions for me -
and is the definition of interfaces in other languages - even no
destructor. Which is not possible in C++.

has a constructor and destructor even if the user doesn't write
them down.

Yes, this is why C++ has no "true" interfaces. Would be perhaps a
good idea to add interfaces to C++, because the additional code for
the destructor could be omitted.

How much code do you think there is in the default destructor for a
base class without any data members? None, would be a good guess.

Bo Persson

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