Re: question about new and delete operator

From:
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alfps@start.no>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:10:56 +0200
Message-ID:
<h31dld$sge$1@news.eternal-september.org>
* Hendrik Schober:

Bo Persson wrote:

Hendrik Schober wrote:

Paavo Helde wrote:

Hendrik Schober <spamtrap@gmx.de> kirjutas:
[...]

Why 'int'? Will there ever be a sequence of -5 bytes?

We have had this discussion before in this group, several times.

I'm sorry I missed this. I'm not a regular reader. I don't
have enough time to be. Feel free to ignore any discussion
stemming from this.

                                                                In
C++, the unsigned types are quite specific types with special
rollover effects and there are tricky promotion rules for
mixed-signedness arithmetic expressions. Unless unsignedness is
strongly needed, I would avoid those types.

Well, call me strict, but I happen to believe that, for
specifying sizes, unsignedness is strongly needed. I also
believe that, if a positive value is needed in order to
call a function, the function's interface should say so.


But that doesn't save you from anyone passing a -5, as that will
"work" for an unsigned parameter as well.


Of course, it doesn't. However, it does communicate
that -5 is not a valid value.


If you fail to communicate the function's contract to client programmers then
you have a problem. You seem to think that that communication problem can be
alleviated by using unsigned types in C or C++. Well that's backward: to anyone
competent you're just communicating that you don't know what you're about, so
that it would be wrong to expect *anything* to be reasonable, i.e., by using
unsigned type you actively engage in failing to do what you wanted, communicate.

And if the function fails to enforce its contract to the degree possible you
have a much more serious problem, because all experience shows that without
automated error detection it's practically impossible to avoid errors.

The client code programmer may have a 100% perfect understanding of your
function's contract, but still manage to call it with invalid arguments.

And what happens when you pass -5 to your unsigned formal argument?

The language standard then guarantees wrapping, that you get the value 2^n-5
where n is the number of value representation bits, and do you check for that?
No? I thought so.

Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

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