Re: Reverse comma operator?

From:
Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
Date:
Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID:
<20090821215530.783@gmail.com>
On 2009-08-10, Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> wrote:

I had an idea the other day for a new operator for C and C++, which
acts like the comma operator but which returns the first value instead
of the second.


You mean like PROG1 in Common Lisp? Quite useful indeed.

In C we have kind of a special case of this, namely post-increment. I.e.

  y = x++;

is similar to a use of your $ operator:

  y = x $ x++;

Implicit to a saved copy of some prior value of a computation is sometimes a
handy way to express yourself.

For example, and using $ for my operator as it doesn't
seem to be already used,

return setupstuff() , calculatevalue() $ resetstuff();


Lisp:

  (progn (set-up-stuff)
         (prog1 (calculate-value)
                (reset-stuff)))

There is prog2 also, (but no prog3, just 1, 2 and n).

I'm pretty sure you can't emulate this operator in any way in portable C.

In the GNU C dialect, we can use the ``typeof'' operator to figure out the
return type of the expression, so that we can define a temporary variable
of a compatible type. And GNU C has block statements which return a value
(the value of the last statement in the block), similar to Lisp's PROG.
(GNU C was originally written by Lisp hackers). So in GNU C, we can easily make:

 #define PROG1(A, B) ...

which evaluates A, then B, with a sequence point, and yields the value of A.

I can't think of a way to do this in ISO C. Even if we accept this ugly
interface:

 #define PROG1(TYPEOF_A, A, B)

the problem is we need a block in order to be able to define the temporary
variable, which conflicts with the requirement to expand into a value-yielding
expression.

would do the same as

setupstuff();
res = calculatevalue();
resetstuff();
return res;


But you can do it like this:

  (setupfstuff(), res = calculatevalue(), resetstuff(), res)

which isn't /that/ bad.

but without needing the temporary value.


I.e. the temporary variable is the /only/ inconvienience. The other aspects
of the above example are strawmen.

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