Re: Moving elements out of an initializer-list

From:
Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.c++
Date:
Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:33:10 -0400
Message-ID:
<i6tdbn$hpg$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 9/16/2010 10:59 AM, Johannes Schaub (litb) wrote:

Victor Bazarov wrote:

On 9/16/2010 8:52 AM, Johannes Schaub (litb) wrote:

It seems that the draft C++0x allows a container to act in the following
way:

template<typename T>
struct container {
    /* t's backing array is a T[]. Wrap into move iterators to
     * make use of move-construction. */
    container(initializer_list<T> t)
      :v(make_move_iterator((T*)t.begin()),
         make_move_iterator((T*)t.end()))
    {

    }

    std::vector<T> v;
};

Notice that i casted the return tpe of t.begin() and t.end() from "T
const*" to "T*", but that seems to be valid. Any comment?


Could you elaborate on why do you need to cast? Thanks!


The above class can be used to do the following

container<T> c{ ifstream("file1.txt"), ifstream("file2.txt") };

And then you have "c.v" a vector of size 2 with those ifstream elements. A
move_iterator returns "T&&" from its "operator*" such that when it iterates
over a "ifstream"-sequence it returns "ifstream&&" which can be moved from.
If I wouldn't have casted, it would return "ifstream const&&", which cannot
be moved from (it's const!).


OK, hold on. The wording of [dcl.init.list/4] is:
"An object of type std::initializer_list<E> is constructed from an
initializer list as if the implementation
allocated an array of N elements of type E, where N is the number of
elements in the initializer list.
Each element of that array is copy-initialized with the corresponding
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
element of the initializer list, .. "

Now, how do you suppose the elements are copy-initialized if the streams
cannot be copied? Have you tried your code anywhere or is it just your
speculation?

But the following does *not* work

vector<ifstream> v{ ifstream("file1.txt"), ifstream("file2.txt") };

Because the const is not casted away, this forces vector to try and copy the
elements, but streams are non-copyable. I think this either shows

- A problem with the wording of initializer_list creation (the backing-up
array is non-const but is inteded to be const?)
- Missing wording that you are not allowed to modify the backing array of an
initializer_list (effectively forbidding moving things out of it)
- Something we can apply to Standard containers to make them more widely
usable with initializer lists.
- A poorly designed initializer_list interface: Why are you allowed to move
things out, but you would need an explicit cast? Either disallow it or
explicitly allow it and make begin/end return "T*".

This is my personal opinion, of course. Please let me hear what you think
about it.


V
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