Re: Latest draft of C++ 11 Organization: Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd.

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Date:
Tue, 7 Jun 2011 03:05:55 CST
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On Jun 6, 6:29 pm, Florian Weimer <f...@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:

ISO does allow free distribution of standards. It's just that it has
to be negotiated upfront. Now it's too late, of course.

On the other hand, almost everybody in the C++ community hopes that
the FDIS continues to leak to the Internet and is consulted by
programmers because everything else would have a disastrous impact on
adoption.


Is it me or it just does not make sense?

There seems to be so many things wrong with such a process that I
can't even begin enumerating. The worst certainly is that charging for
something that should be on the public domain simply does not sound
right. Yes, there are costs involved in the process and I would be
glad to pay for them if it were worth the money. But we don't usually
want pay for highly suboptimal stuff, do we?

Come on, they couldn't even include a feature as simple as static_if!
While there are some great ideas in the new standard, they all look
like half baked, even though it took 8 years to get ready. For
example, why must I use the pack operator only for the last arguments
in a variadic template? Dude! Initializer lists are so wrong! Perfect
forwarding is not perfect! A good interface for valarrays?

C++0x isn't even ready and there is so much already to be done. The
worst thing that ever happened to C++ was Stroustroup leaving it for
ISO to handle.

Elias.

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