Re: Some free utilities for Java, with Hebrew support.

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:20:34 -0400
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nebulous99@gmail.com wrote:

On Oct 8, 3:10 pm, Arne VajhHj <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

Except that only a closed-source vendor can *define* a proprietary
protocol. If a protocol's latest version is always immediately
embodied in open source code, the protocol clearly cannot be
meaningfully called "proprietary" now can it?

Yes. It can.


No, it can't, arnehole, and stop posting pure-attack posts in response
to everything I write, and pretty much nothing else, or I will report
you to your ISP for abuse.


Feel free to do so.

They will be rolling on the floor laughing.

A proprietary protocol mean that a single company controls the
protocol. They can change it whenever they want. They do not
need to supply an official specification.

Open source means that some source code is available for everyone.


Open source means that they have supplied an official specification:
the source code for a reference implementation, which is about as
exact a specification as can be.


If you were a programmer then you would know that there is a big
difference between a specification and an implementation.

Proprietary does not require patents or closed source.


Yes, it does. Proprietary means that they own, in some sense, a
format, protocol, or other thing. It basically equates to IP. That
requires either a copyright (and restrictively used, rather than, say,
GPL) or patents more or less by definition. With the GPL the MySQL
company owns very little, other than they have retained the power of
being the guys you have to negotiate with to license it in any way
*other* than GPL.


Again: you can not copyright a protocol.

MySQL owns the power to change the protocol whenever they want to.

Arne

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