Re: Some free utilities for Java, with Hebrew support.

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer
Date:
Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:22:55 -0400
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nebulous99@gmail.com wrote:

On Oct 8, 3:15 pm, Arne VajhHj <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
[snip more rudeness from arnehole]

This thread started because we told you that MySQL was not free for
everyone.


But it is. It has some strings attached, but anyone who wants to can
use it without paying, subject to certain requirements. They only need
to pay if they want to avoid one of those other requirements. So they
have a choice, and one of the choices involves zero funds transferred.
Plus, being GPL, it's certainly free in the free-software sense.


It is free in the free software sense.

But commercial ISV's does not consider it free.

What are these ISVs selling? (Note plural in place of possessive.) I
wouldn't think there'd be much of a market for a rebranded, closed-
source version of something you can get cheaper from the original
source. Then again, people will pay for bottled water and name-brand
colas when they could use tap water and no-name cola at a fraction of
the price, so ...

Anything.

 From accounting systems to ORM frameworks.

Just stuff that needs to be linked with the database connector and
therefore can not live with GPL.


This seems odd. Why are the makers of this specialized software not
either using their own, or using a completely open standard to connect
to the next layer down that is totally vendor-independent, such that
they can pick and choose what implementations to use to be compatible
with their intended licensing?


Because the free alternative does not exist.

I thought the database engine was also open source.

It is.

You can sell open source as well.


True enough, but it further goes against your claim that there's
anything proprietary here given that the source code for a reference
implementation is freely available to all and sundry.


No. That is a misconception of yours.

Arne

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