Re: Chrome for Android does not support JAVA

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Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:49:14 -0500
On 2/17/2012 5:52 AM, Rajiv Gupta wrote:

On 2012-02-17 13:23:25 +1100, Arne Vajh?j said:

On 2/15/2012 9:21 PM, Rajiv Gupta wrote:

On 2012-02-15 23:50:04 +1100, Richard Maher said:

Is anyone else gutted that the Chrome browser on Android will not
support JAVA, Flash or any other pluggin?

I thought Google and Android were big on JAVA?

Android uses the Dalvik VM, ostensibly to take advantage of the CPU
architectures of the devices commonly used in mobile devices. For Google
it also provides a convient firewall to keep out unwanted code from
their eco system.

Given that they provide free tools to generate code for Dalvik, then
they do not really keep anyone out.

It is still a barrier.

Without any noticeable effect.

Flash is no longer necessary since HTML5.

If you can live with 30% of web users not seeing your stuff.

The situation is rapidly changing.

Not really. A large portion of users do not update their
browsers when a new major version come out.

                      Adobe have acknowledged it themselves
as they have stopped developing Flash for mobile devices.

Adobe has acknowledged that Flash on mobile is a dead end.

But there are still a few people left that use PC's to
browse the web.

The same goes for Java Applets. It has been a long time since applets
have been useful. I recommend that people disable Java in their
browsers. It is just a security risk and a way to waste memory.


On a page that does not use applets, then Java will not be running and
therefor not e using memory.

On a page that does use applets, then Java will consume memory but also
be needed.

So I do not understand that advice.

Are you retarded or just a pedant? By disabling Java in the browser, you
will prevent the browser from running applets.

If you delete the browser you will save even more memory.

There is not much point in saving memory by disabling functionality
that you want.

canvas and websockets and JS can do anything that you could do in Java
in a browser.

For web then Java applets is still more widely supported than HTML5.

For any new developments you would be an imbecile to choose deploying an

Imbecile preferring bigger market share? I don't think so!

           The browser that has the most rapidly increasing market share
(Chrome) does not even bother to support it.

Have you considered investigating these matters a bit?

Applets is supported in Chrome since Java 6u12.

As for Android. It is in my opinion a fiendishly clever honeypot aiding
Google in collecting the identities of as many people in the world as
they can.

That problem is solvable:

Google's main business is to collect information about people in order
to profit from it by advertising or selling the information in some
form. This is not a paranoid delusional statement. In some jurisdictions
their activities border on criminal. For example, forging emails from
registered users which state that user "XXX" has invited you to join
Google+. In fact an official complaint has been made to a member of
parlaiment in my jurisdiction asking for the federal police to
investigate these mass forging of emails because forging of emails is an

The fact that a person write the parliament and ask them to
investigate something does not make it illegal or immoral.


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