Re: Creating a simple visual user interface

From:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Date:
Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:19:25 -0400
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Andrew Thompson wrote:

On Aug 10, 12:18 pm, Arne Vajh?j <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
...

..in the Java world GUI builders has never really caught on.*


I have despised GUI builders, historically, but
have been following this thread with interest,
and am almost tempted to try them again, just to
see if I can hate them less this time. (I just
thought I should mention that in case anybody is
left wonderring where my prejudices come from, and
what the 'shades' I might put on the comments mean.)

I am wondering if this (* Arne's comment) comes from
Java being X-Plat and requiring use and understanding
of layouts. It seems GUI builders tend to presume you
want to use 'XYLayout' or 'PreciseLayout' or a
'LeaveItExactlyWhereIDropItLayout'.

 >
 > This leaves a GUI that might break on the next system,
 > or the next Java update.
 >

Is my assumption wrong? How do you go about selecting
(and nesting) layouts in a screen based GUI designer?

There has not been much discussion of layouts in the
descriptions of GUI making so far, but perhaps that
was just because it was considered ancillary to the
main point.


I hope that GUI builders today only use standard layout
managers.

My guess is that it is more cultural than technology based.

Java programmers in general do not like to be associated
with the Mort VB6 type of programming.

The "whatever get the job done the cheapest way" is usually
considered second class to the "best way".

Arne

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