Re: IBM no longer interested in Sun at any price

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Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:39:50 -0400
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Qu0ll wrote:

"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Arne Vajh?j wrote:

Mike Schilling wrote:

Mark Space wrote:

Mike Schilling wrote:

In the J2EE server realm, for instance, the only thing that
prevented Sun's various server offerings from being players as big
as WebSphere or Weblogic was incompetence.


Yeah that's my impression too. I have no idea how Sun managed to
flub that one.


Keep acquiring companies until you own four or five different web
servers. Choose among them for political rather than technical
reasons. Be sure to pick the one maintained by people who in six
months can leave with large stock grants fully vested.


That may apply to some of the NetScape server side stuff.

But I don't think it matches with Java, Java IDE and Java app server.


1i. There's no money to be made in IDEs.
1ii. One of the few things Sun does that is widely used is NetBeans,
in which, as part i relates, there is no money to be made. [a]
2. iPlanet was a J2EE server.

a) Though Sun did for a time harbor the fantasy that they could sell
"advanced" NetBeans add-ons, back in the days when it was still called
"Forte for Java".


If Sun sold NetBeans on a subscription basis they would probably do very
well. Same goes for GlassFish.


Why do you think that?

It did not sell well when they did try to sell previous SUN app servers
and Forte for Java (which was NetBeans).

And since you have the legal right to distribute the source code
for both products to everyone for free due to GPL license, then
it would be impossible to market today.

Arne

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